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Today's Topics:
1. Counter-Strike: Source Beta Update (Jason Ruymen)
2. Re: Counter-Strike: Source Beta Update (J?K? Rawr)
3. newer xeon / i7 cpus: turbo mode enabled or disabled?
(Marco Padovan)
4. Re: newer xeon / i7 cpus: turbo mode enabled or disabled?
(Karl Labrador)
5. Re: newer xeon / i7 cpus: turbo mode enabled or disabled?
(Marco Padovan)
6. Re: newer xeon / i7 cpus: turbo mode enabled or disabled?
(EkaInfinitos)
7. Re: newer xeon / i7 cpus: turbo mode enabled or disabled?
(Marco Padovan)
8. Re: newer xeon / i7 cpus: turbo mode enabled or disabled?
(Ben Mendis)
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2010 14:12:16 -0700
From: Jason Ruymen <jas...@valvesoftware.com>
Subject: [hlds_linux] Counter-Strike: Source Beta Update
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A required update to Counter-Strike: Source is now available. The
specific changes include:
- Reinstated ammo cost.
- Added client ConVar cl_autobuyammo ( default 7 ) which determines how
much ammo to attempt to buy with guns.
??????????????? 1-7: The ammo buttons in the Buy menu are hidden.?
ConCommands buyammo1 and buyammo2 are still active.
??????????????? 0: Ammo is not automatically purchased and the ammo
buttons in the Buy menu are visible.? They now buy single ammo boxes.
- De_Inferno bug and exploit fixes.? See
http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1406537 for
details.
Jason
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2010 14:21:54 -0700
From: J?K? Rawr <can_kic...@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Counter-Strike: Source Beta Update
To: <hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com>
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Topic says beta, yet in your message it just says Counter strike source.
Not sure if this was just an error or not. :)
I don't see an update for CSS so I guess it's for beta only.
From: jas...@valvesoftware.com
To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com; h...@list.valvesoftware.com
Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2010 14:12:16 -0700
Subject: [hlds_linux] Counter-Strike: Source Beta Update
A required update to Counter-Strike: Source is now available. The
specific changes include:
- Reinstated ammo cost.
- Added client ConVar cl_autobuyammo ( default 7 ) which determines how
much ammo to attempt to buy with guns.
1-7: The ammo buttons in the Buy menu are hidden.
ConCommands buyammo1 and buyammo2 are still active.
0: Ammo is not automatically purchased and the ammo
buttons in the Buy menu are visible. They now buy single ammo boxes.
- De_Inferno bug and exploit fixes. See
http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1406537 for
details.
Jason
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 01 Sep 2010 23:27:32 +0200
From: Marco Padovan <evolutioncr...@gmail.com>
Subject: [hlds_linux] newer xeon / i7 cpus: turbo mode enabled or
disabled?
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What are your feelings about TURBO mode when running a dedicated
server focusing on linux steam games hosting?
Personally I think that in theory it should be good to have it enabled
(can give an extra juice on certain cores if others in idle)... but what
about thinks like fps stability and tickrate? Does the constant
frequency fluctuation is giving you any trouble?
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2010 23:33:32 +0200
From: Karl Labrador <karlicio...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] newer xeon / i7 cpus: turbo mode enabled or
disabled?
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I've got turbo mode enabled on my Xeon X3450 box. I don't see why not?
It's
so fancy! :-D
On 1 September 2010 23:27, Marco Padovan <evolutioncr...@gmail.com> wrote:
What are your feelings about TURBO mode when running a dedicated server
focusing on linux steam games hosting?
Personally I think that in theory it should be good to have it enabled
(can
give an extra juice on certain cores if others in idle)... but what about
thinks like fps stability and tickrate? Does the constant frequency
fluctuation is giving you any trouble?
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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 01 Sep 2010 23:52:11 +0200
From: Marco Padovan <evolutioncr...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] newer xeon / i7 cpus: turbo mode enabled or
disabled?
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Yeah, the name sounds "cool" :P
but the question is: turbo mode can be enabled ONLY if you enable the
intel enhanced speed step... normaly speedstep (and frequency scaling in
general) ain't very good for servers environment... isn't it?
Il 01/09/2010 23:33, Karl Labrador ha scritto:
I've got turbo mode enabled on my Xeon X3450 box. I don't see why not?
It's so fancy! :-D
On 1 September 2010 23:27, Marco Padovan <evolutioncr...@gmail.com
<mailto:evolutioncr...@gmail.com>> wrote:
What are your feelings about TURBO mode when running a dedicated
server focusing on linux steam games hosting?
Personally I think that in theory it should be good to have it
enabled (can give an extra juice on certain cores if others in
idle)... but what about thinks like fps stability and tickrate?
Does the constant frequency fluctuation is giving you any trouble?
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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2010 16:11:04 -0600
From: EkaInfinitos<ekainfin...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] newer xeon / i7 cpus: turbo mode enabled or
disabled?
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I know I personally feel better about having my server cores running full
bore instead of trying to dynamically scale themselves. For my gameservers
and database servers, I want full power all the time, power consumption
can
sit down and be quiet. Until chipmakers introduce processors with
precognitive abilities, I would rather take the hit on the power bill than
have performance or customer experience suffer.
This is why I am in IT and not financial.
~Eka
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Cc: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] newer xeon / i7 cpus: turbo mode enabled or
disabled?
Yeah, the name sounds "cool" :P
but the question is: turbo mode can be enabled ONLY if you enable the
intel
enhanced speed step... normaly speedstep (and frequency scaling in
general) ain't very good for servers environment... isn't it?
Il 01/09/2010 23:33, Karl Labrador ha scritto:
I've got turbo mode enabled on my Xeon X3450 box. I don't see why not?
It's so fancy! :-D
On 1 September 2010 23:27, Marco Padovan <evolutioncr...@gmail.com
<mailto:evolutioncr...@gmail.com>> wrote:
What are your feelings about TURBO mode when running a dedicated
server focusing on linux steam games hosting?
Personally I think that in theory it should be good to have it
enabled (can give an extra juice on certain cores if others in
idle)... but what about thinks like fps stability and tickrate?
Does the constant frequency fluctuation is giving you any trouble?
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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 02 Sep 2010 00:23:36 +0200
From: Marco Padovan <evolutioncr...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] newer xeon / i7 cpus: turbo mode enabled or
disabled?
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Agree with that...
scaling UP is done AFTER the workload requires it... I think we are
currently at the state of the art... but I agree with you in having full
speed all the time...
First thing I strip out in the kernel cfg is the frequency scaling
support :D
Il 02/09/2010 00:11, EkaInfinitos ha scritto:
I know I personally feel better about having my server cores running full
bore instead of trying to dynamically scale themselves. For my
gameservers
and database servers, I want full power all the time, power consumption
can
sit down and be quiet. Until chipmakers introduce processors with
precognitive abilities, I would rather take the hit on the power bill
than
have performance or customer experience suffer.
This is why I am in IT and not financial.
~Eka
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From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Marco
Padovan
Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 1552
Cc: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] newer xeon / i7 cpus: turbo mode enabled or
disabled?
Yeah, the name sounds "cool" :P
but the question is: turbo mode can be enabled ONLY if you enable the
intel
enhanced speed step... normaly speedstep (and frequency scaling in
general) ain't very good for servers environment... isn't it?
Il 01/09/2010 23:33, Karl Labrador ha scritto:
I've got turbo mode enabled on my Xeon X3450 box. I don't see why not?
It's so fancy! :-D
On 1 September 2010 23:27, Marco Padovan<evolutioncr...@gmail.com
<mailto:evolutioncr...@gmail.com>> wrote:
What are your feelings about TURBO mode when running a dedicated
server focusing on linux steam games hosting?
Personally I think that in theory it should be good to have it
enabled (can give an extra juice on certain cores if others in
idle)... but what about thinks like fps stability and tickrate?
Does the constant frequency fluctuation is giving you any trouble?
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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2010 19:15:32 -0400
From: Ben Mendis <dragonwis...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] newer xeon / i7 cpus: turbo mode enabled or
disabled?
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If I understand it correctly, Turbo mode allows you to over-clock your
active cores when other cores are idle.
With Speed Step, your cores would normally operate a lower speed, like
50%,
and increase on demand.
With Turbo, your cores would normally operate at 100% but if one of them
isn't needed it gets disabled and the rest get a boost to 110%. (Not sure
on
the numbers, someone else can correct me.)
So my question is what do you consider "full bore"? Do you consider it
full
bore to lock all your cores at 100%? Or to over-clock all of them to 110%?
Or to disable all but one and over-clock that one core to the max?
If consistency is the goal, I would keep Turbo turned off. I'm sure the
engineers at Intel did some smart math to make sure Turbo would, in
general,
improve over all performance; but improvements to the average performance
might come at the cost of significant temporary performance loss. I don't
have any science to back up that supposition, so maybe it's not a valid
concern. Better safe than sorry, right?
On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 6:11 PM, EkaInfinitos <ekainfin...@gmail.com>
wrote:
I know I personally feel better about having my server cores running full
bore instead of trying to dynamically scale themselves. For my
gameservers
and database servers, I want full power all the time, power consumption
can
sit down and be quiet. Until chipmakers introduce processors with
precognitive abilities, I would rather take the hit on the power bill
than
have performance or customer experience suffer.
This is why I am in IT and not financial.
~Eka
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From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Marco
Padovan
Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 1552
Cc: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] newer xeon / i7 cpus: turbo mode enabled or
disabled?
Yeah, the name sounds "cool" :P
but the question is: turbo mode can be enabled ONLY if you enable the
intel
enhanced speed step... normaly speedstep (and frequency scaling in
general) ain't very good for servers environment... isn't it?
Il 01/09/2010 23:33, Karl Labrador ha scritto:
> I've got turbo mode enabled on my Xeon X3450 box. I don't see why not?
> It's so fancy! :-D
>
> On 1 September 2010 23:27, Marco Padovan <evolutioncr...@gmail.com
> <mailto:evolutioncr...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> What are your feelings about TURBO mode when running a dedicated
> server focusing on linux steam games hosting?
>
> Personally I think that in theory it should be good to have it
> enabled (can give an extra juice on certain cores if others in
> idle)... but what about thinks like fps stability and tickrate?
> Does the constant frequency fluctuation is giving you any trouble?
>
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