In my 20 plus year career I have seen a lot more people with mainframe backgrounds expressing a willingness to learn and integrate usage of non-mainframe technology than I have seen people from an "open-systems" background show a willingness to learn anything about the mainframe.
=============================================== Wayne Driscoll OMEGAMON DB2 L3 Support/Development wdrisco(AT)us.ibm.com =============================================== From: "R.S." <r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.pl> To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Date: 07/18/2011 03:50 PM Subject: Re: Making Z/OS easier - Effectively replacing JCL with Unix like commands Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu> W dniu 2011-07-18 22:15, Paul Gilmartin pisze: [...] > As upper management perceives, even through media such as airline > magazines, that (some; I'm confident not all) z/OS systems programmers > exhibit public delight in unwillingness to assimilate new technology and > in performing their jobs in a needlessly difficult, even painful manner, I'm not 'upper management', I'm very downlevel manager and I don't read airline magazines at all, I prefer some good redbook instead... HOWEVER MY OPINION IS EXACTLY AS THE ABOVE! Yes, majority of mainframe people I ever met do their job in needlessly difficult, sometimes even painful manner. SOme of them are absolutely unwilling to assimilate anything "new", even like DFSMS (is it modern? is it "cool"? did it come from "colorful worlds of Windows, Apple etc."?). Of course there are also people more opne-minded, but the majority... Oh, someone could say there are old farts and young wolves. No, the division is not so simple, I know clever open-minded gray-haired folks and young but very "old-minded" adepts. > it bodes ill for the future of the platform. Yes, I wish it would be untrue. -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland -- Tre tej wiadomoci moe zawiera informacje prawnie chronione Banku przeznaczone wycznie do uytku subowego adresata. Odbiorc moe by jedynie jej adresat z wyczeniem dostpu osób trzecich. Jeeli nie jeste adresatem niniejszej wiadomoci lub pracownikiem upowanionym do jej przekazania adresatowi, informujemy, e jej rozpowszechnianie, kopiowanie, rozprowadzanie lub inne dziaanie o podobnym charakterze jest prawnie zabronione i moe by karalne. Jeeli otrzymae t wiadomo omykowo, prosimy niezwocznie zawiadomi nadawc wysyajc odpowied oraz trwale usun t wiadomo wczajc w to wszelkie jej kopie wydrukowane lub zapisane na dysku. This e-mail may contain legally privileged information of the Bank and is intended solely for business use of the addressee. This e-mail may only be received by the addressee and may not be disclosed to any third parties. If you are not the intended addressee of this e-mail or the employee authorised to forward it to the addressee, be advised that any dissemination, copying, distribution or any other similar activity is legally prohibited and may be punishable. If you received this e-mail by mistake please advise the sender immediately by using the reply facility in your e-mail software and delete permanently this e-mail including any copies of it either printed or saved to hard drive. BRE Bank SA, 00-950 Warszawa, ul. Senatorska 18, tel. +48 (22) 829 00 00, fax +48 (22) 829 00 33, e-mail: i...@brebank.pl Sd Rejonowy dla m. st. Warszawy XII Wydzia Gospodarczy Krajowego Rejestru Sdowego, nr rejestru przedsibiorców KRS 0000025237, NIP: 526-021-50-88. Wedug stanu na dzie 01.01.2011 r. kapita zakadowy BRE Banku SA (w caoci wpacony) wynosi 168.346.696 zotych. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
