On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 2:28 AM, Rohan Garg <rohang...@ubuntu.com> wrote:
> Hi Parin
>
>> Sorry Rohan but these days Ubuntu is a different story, especially for
>> the past few years, the project is going a different way.
>>
>> IMHO, in a quest to replace Windows it has gone the Windows way by
>> introducing malicious features like Spyware[1] in it.
>>
>
> Whoa, let me just stop you right there for a moment. Ubuntu is the
> name of the whole project but also the name of some products/flavors .
> So this is clearly aimed towards a particular flavor. Just wanted to
> clarify that before proceeding.
>
>> So personally I don't use it or recommend it to anyone, moreover for me
>> Debian Release party was more of community event, to celebrate the
>> release of a universal GNU/Linux OS which has been there for a long
>> time, almost 20 years, with most of things taken care by volunteers
>> while Ubuntu is more of the Canonical thing now. So IMHO I don't think
>> we can have a release party together, for them.
>>
>
> I strongly disagree with the statement that Ubuntu is merely `a
> Canonical thing now`. There are various flavors of Ubuntu like Kubuntu
> / Xubuntu / Lubuntu which have a strong community side attached to it.
> I find it offensive that you chastise the entire community for the
> actions of a company that is just one aspect of the whole Ubuntu
> ecosystem. Not taking sides, but Canonical provides alot of tools,
> infrastructure and manpower that allows all these flavors to come to
> fruition. Not to mention that alot of foundations work done in Ubuntu
> finds its way back into Debian.
>
>> Don't want to start a Debian v/s Ubuntu debate, here because IMHO they
>> are incomparable, with the kind of purposes for which they are developed.
>>
>
> Neither do I, everyone is entitled to their opinions, however, it
> seems to me you have a very limited view of what Ubuntu is. Now that
> I've (hopefully) widened your view a bit, would you still be open to
> the idea of having a Ubuntu + Debian release party? I strongly believe
> that both Ubuntu and Debian need each other in order to survive and
> that there should be more friendly relationships between the two.

Debian will not need Ubuntu to survive but Ubuntu will always need Debian.

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