note in this cross posting from ietf pkix, cross-posted from bar
association mailing list ... mentions banks being able to attest to some
assertion.
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm14.htm#43 PKI's not working

that effectively what an x9.59 transaction is ... the financial institution
providing real-time confirmation about some assertion regarding payment.

this was generalized quite a bit in the FSTC FAST project .... which
effectively took the 8383 payment transaction model and extended it to
other types of assertions; aka zip-code, >21 years old, <16years old, etc.
Some generalized assertion was made (not just about payment) and the
financial institution either affirmed it or didn't affirm it. it wasn't a
case somewhat outlined in
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm14.htm#41 certificates & the alternative
view

where huge amounts of identity and privacy information could be overloaded
into a certificate ... which then could be sprayed all around the world.

x9.59 refs:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/index.html#x959
http://www.ca0.net/

some past FSTC FAST discussions:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/99.html#217 AADS/X9.59 demo & standards at BAI
(world-wide retail banking) show
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aepay10.htm#8 FSTC to Validate WAP 1.2.1
Specification for Mobile Commerce
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aepay10.htm#31 some certification &
authentication landscape summary from recent threads
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm11.htm#40 ALARMED ... Only Mostly Dead ...
RIP PKI ... part II
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm11.htm#42 ALARMED ... Only Mostly Dead ...
RIP PKI ... part III
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm12.htm#39 Identification = Payment
Transaction?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm12.htm#41 I-D
ACTION:draft-ietf-pkix-sim-00.txt
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm12.htm#54 TTPs & AADS Was: First Data Unit
Says It's Untangling Authentication
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002o.html#57 Certificate Authority: Industry
vs. Government

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