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ASF GitHub Bot commented on MCOMPILER-515:
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hunterpayne commented on PR #160:
URL: 
https://github.com/apache/maven-compiler-plugin/pull/160#issuecomment-2070771711

   Great, so we have 2 buckets to break these issues into.  1) issues with the 
difference in behavior with javac (vs JDT) and 2) issues with the difference in 
behavior with this plugin and the Takari one.  I'm curious, what are the issues 
in the first bucket?  Perhaps the target should be to get the maven compiler to 
work on JDT as a requirement instead of javac and JDT.  Maybe that's a goal we 
can achieve.
      On Monday, April 22, 2024 at 12:21:17 PM PDT, Tamas Cservenak 
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   Today, if one needs fully incremental (and build avoidance) with current 
stable Maven 3.9.x, one should use Takari Lifecycle plugin. But even then you 
should use Eclipse JDT not javac. But, in turn, with JDT, you get other nice 
things like enforcing dependency usage and so on...
   
   http://takari.io/book/index.html
   
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> Plugin is NOT incremental, so let it go
> ---------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: MCOMPILER-515
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MCOMPILER-515
>             Project: Maven Compiler Plugin
>          Issue Type: Bug
>            Reporter: Tamas Cservenak
>            Priority: Major
>
> The maven-compiler-plugin is NOT incremental, so we should just let it go. 
> The shared incremental stuff is broken since it's last factual code change 
> (2012!).
> Moreover, the broken incremental stuff just makes us look bad, see the "mvn 
> clean install" vs "mvn verify" issue: 
> [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XeQj-IbSxJI]
> Accept it, that this plugins is not incremental, so it should not make users 
> believe it is. Moreover, the bugs in this feature exist for too long, that 
> just cause harm to users and to project as whole.



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