Thanks for answering my question and your update. -----Original Message----- From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of Cristóbal Sent: Friday, May 11, 2018 6:33 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox 60
I still had a 52.X ESR installer on my system. SO I just uninstalled V60, ran the 52.X installer and updated to the most current one capable with the older version and am now am on Firefox Version 52.8.0. The same one I was on before trying the Quantum or whatever it's called. The other issue I was having with Firefox 60 and Jaws on The Old Reader: This is what I sent VFO: I am noticing with the latest Firefox 60 (ESR and standard version) when browsing down my list of RSS posts. Be it in a particular feed's entries, a folder created by me or even in the all posts view, when I click enter or press the spacebar to expand that particular entry to show the summary (this is in list view. Not full view) and then later wish to do the same for another RSS entry, Jaws doesn't appear to be able to accomplish this second task. I've tried using the Jaws cursor, maximizing the window and then pressing enter or spacebar, tabbing to be sure Jaws focus isn't somewhere else, but nothing seems to work. It's basically pick one RSS entry and that's it. The only thing I can do to be able to select another RSS entry to view is do an entire page refresh. Which isn't a solution as once the refresh occurs, all previously unread posts are marked as read. In my case, The Older Reader is marked as my home page and I refer to it all the time. So this one bug is proving to be quite disruptive. I don't know if it has something to do with a virtual buffer focus or some other element, but I am not able to figure it out on my end. To be clear, this particular behavior is not present in prior versions of Firefox. I have been using the V 52.x ESR version before upgrading to v60 without this issue present. So anyway, in the same email response I pasted below, I got this note from the same tech: Also, I did see your other e-mail in which you mentioned a specific Web site. I did look at that Web site, but I found that it requires signing up for an account to see the issues. If you could provide us with a site with these issues that does not require signing up for an account, that would be very helpful. Ok... but as I specifically mentioned this website, it kind of defeats the purpose... Again, probably one of those things I'd have to call in to better demonstrate the exact problem, but I'm busy throughout the day and always on the phone, doubt I'd be able to do it any time soon. This is why I figured in part to just go back to V 52 and maybe wait for another Jaws or Firefox release with hopefully some more improvements. I've waited a few months, what's a couple of more weeks... As long as you don't mess with your profile on your system, then uninstalling and reinstalling any version of Firefox shouldn't be a big deal. That said, standard caveats of backing up and all that apply. Also, I do have a Firefox account for easier browser syncing between multiple PCs and my iPhone so there's that too. -----Original Message----- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt Sent: Friday, May 11, 2018 1:59 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox 60 How did you revert to 52ESR? By uninstalling 60 and reinstalling 52ESR? I'm hoping it was something else. I'd love to get 52ESR back with my settings intact. meanwhile, I urge everyone else having problems with Firefox 60 to contact VFO because otherwise they'll stall, the way they still stall on making crucial 2018 fixes. But be sure you're using the current release of 2018 when you report Firefox 60 problems. Apparently, this release is required for compatibility. -----Original Message----- From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of Cristóbal Sent: Friday, May 11, 2018 4:18 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox 60 I wrote VFO with issues I was having with Jaws and Firefox 60 and Jaws losing speech for a second or two when arrowing around a webpage. Almost as if it was catching up with the keystrokes. Jaws wasn't slow or sluggish per say as when it was moving around, it felt responsive, but the speech silencing thing was getting annoying. That along with an existing issue I've been having with Jaws just randomly losing focus on any site and me having to maximize the window or tab or shift plus tab to get focus back all the time made the user experience a frustrating one. The response I got back was: Thank you for contacting VFO ® Technical Support. I have tried Firefox 60 with the most recent version of JAWS® 2018 and have not really found the issues you mention. At times, I have found that sometimes, when a Web site is still loading, it might get sluggish, but if you give it a minute or 2, you can navigate just fine. I just spent about 5-10 minutes navigating a very resource-intensive Web site and was actually very impressed with performance. Therefore, I am not sure this is a general issue but one that might be specific to your machine. So, aside from me not waiting around a minute or two for every single webpage to load when I didn't have to before, looks like I'm going to have to call tech support so I can demonstrate for them these odd speech pauses and whatnot. Don't know if I'll be able to do so anytime soon as I work during the day, but anyway. I've gone back to V 52.X in the meantime. Regarding the alerts, I was able to disable those with an about:config tweek a while back. I'll have to dig around for it again. -----Original Message----- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt Sent: Friday, May 11, 2018 12:54 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Firefox 60 I'm experiencing several problems with Firefox 60. Here's a copy of the email I just sent VFO explaining what they are. I did mention in the message that I recently upgraded from Firefox 52ESR to 60. 1. When I try to log in to a website, Firefox's message offering to save the log-in information is spoken, and then spoken several more times. I caught that to decline, I should press alt-d. when I did so, Firefox hung up and eventually gave me the options to wait or close. After what was already a long wait, I closed it. I've encountered this message several times since. Pressing alt-d led to the same result, as did my try with alt-n (which often brings up other options). The only way to get past this message is to wait for it to go away. 1. On the donations page of the website www.wnyc.org<http://www.wnyc.org>, the combo boxes for state and country don't give any information, e.g., state abbreviations. These combo boxes do work with IE11. A similar problem came up on another website with Firefox 60, but I can't be sure I've diagnosed the problem yet. 1. Placemarkers are behaving erratically. None carried over from Firefox 52ESR, so I've had to start over again putting them in place. One repeating problem is that even though I uncheck the box that would apply the placemarker throughout a website, the placemarkers all apply on every page. This means I've accumulated twelve placemarkers on every page of one website I regularly visit, even though I want at most three per page. 1. I'm also finding that some placemarkers just don't work when I press the k key. Even though the placemarker list shows one for that location, k doesn't locate it. 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