Hi.

I switched to Firefox  60, found it still a bit lacking in performance, and switched back to Chrome. A site that makes it painfully clear which one is winning is amazon.com. Just doing a search for something and noticing how long pages need to appear and be readable, and how responsive navigation keys arrows and quick nav etc are. Firefox is almost back to what it was in 52, but not totally. I was under the impression it would run better than chrome but that hasn't been so for me.


Edge is reasonably quick loading pages and allowing me to begin arrowing on them, but the way it announces going in and out of regions and such is very verbose and I find it slows me down too much. I'm really a little annoyed at just how much it seems to be asking to have a really good browsing experience this day and age. Chrome doesn't have it all either, it can easily get messed up and start using all of your ram. I'm not having that problem myself luckily, but I have multiple friends that are, each of them on multiple computers too.


In any case, I'm not trying to convert you folks to Chrome or anything like that, guess I wanted to rant a little.



Cheers:
Aaron Spears, A.K.A. valiant8086. General Partner - Valiant Galaxy Associates "We 
make Very Good Audiogames for the blind community - http://valiantGalaxy.com";

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On 5/11/2018 4:17 PM, Cristóbal wrote:
I wrote VFO with issues I was having with Jaws and Firefox 60 and Jaws
losing speech for a second or two when arrowing around a webpage. Almost as
if it was catching up with the keystrokes. Jaws wasn't slow or sluggish per
say as when it was moving around, it felt responsive, but the speech
silencing thing was getting annoying. That along with an existing issue I've
been having with Jaws just randomly losing focus on any site and me having
to maximize the window or tab or shift plus tab to get focus back all the
time made the user experience a frustrating one.
The response I got back was:
Thank you for contacting VFO ® Technical Support.  I have tried Firefox 60
with the most recent version of JAWS® 2018 and have not really found the
issues you mention.  At times, I have found that sometimes, when a Web site
is still loading, it might get sluggish, but if you give it a minute or 2,
you can navigate just fine.  I just spent about 5-10 minutes navigating a
very resource-intensive Web site and was actually very impressed with
performance.  Therefore, I am not sure this is a general issue but one that
might be specific to your machine.

So, aside from me not waiting around a minute or two for every single
webpage to load when I didn't have to before, looks like I'm going to have
to call tech support so I can demonstrate for them these odd speech pauses
and whatnot. Don't know if I'll be able to do so anytime soon as I work
during the day, but anyway. I've gone back to V 52.X in the meantime.
Regarding the alerts, I was able to disable those with an about:config tweek
a while back. I'll have to dig around for it again.

-----Original Message-----
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2018 12:54 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Firefox 60

I'm experiencing several problems with Firefox 60. Here's a copy of the
email I just sent VFO explaining what they are. I did mention in the message
that I recently upgraded from Firefox 52ESR to 60.


   1.  When I try to log in to a website, Firefox's message offering to save
the log-in information is spoken, and then spoken several more times. I
caught that to decline, I should press alt-d. when I did so, Firefox hung up
and eventually gave me the options to wait or close. After what was already
a long wait, I closed it.

I've encountered this message several times since. Pressing alt-d led to the
same result, as did my try with alt-n (which often brings up other options).
The only way to get past this message is to wait for it to go away.


   1.  On the donations page of the website
www.wnyc.org<http://www.wnyc.org>, the combo boxes for state and country
don't give any information, e.g., state abbreviations. These combo boxes do
work with IE11. A similar problem came up on another website with Firefox
60, but I can't be sure I've diagnosed the problem yet.


   1.  Placemarkers are behaving erratically. None carried over from Firefox
52ESR, so I've had to start over again putting them in place. One repeating
problem is that even though I uncheck the box that would apply the
placemarker throughout a website, the placemarkers all apply on every page.
This means I've accumulated twelve placemarkers on every page of one website
I regularly visit, even though I want at most three per page.


   1.  I'm also finding that some placemarkers just don't work when I press
the k key. Even though the placemarker list shows one for that location, k
doesn't locate it.

I'm working with JAWS 2018.1804.26.400,, and my OS is Windows 7.

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