On Mon, 15 Oct 2018, Michael Zangl wrote:
Since you are the one one objecting the loudest so far and won't be
attending, what are the points that would convince you to do one of the
following:
* Switch to a different build system
It must have advantages over the current one and must work offline and
without third party server infrastructure.
* Switch to a different / decentralized source versioning system?
It must have advantages over the current one and must work without third
party server infrastructure.
* Change the project layout fundamentally (different source dir layout)
I have no opinion here. Can't remember that I ever voiced either pro nor
contra. If it makes sense why not? Thought the general rule applies here
as well: It must have advantages over the current layout.
And changes must be incremental, like all JOSM changes.
* Change the way in which JOSM is started (e.g. to replace webstart)
I don't use Webstart myself, as I don't use Windows. Whatever solution is
the best here should be implemented. In the history Webstart was not the
suggested solution, people downloaded the installers or the JAR-files as
main method. Webstart has a lot of advantages and keeping an method as
simple as that working would be a fine goal.
But probably changing the exe to be a full-featured compiled Java exe is
also a good way. That decision is up to the Windows users and developers.
For most proposals, you currently have a "is no option" opinion, which makes
it difficult for us to discuss anything we could apply later.
Don't mix that: For the first two points I currently have a big no, as
suggestions involve mostly relying on third party services (in case of git
even on Microsoft). I'm too long in this business to ever do that again
for a critical infrastructure component.
It was simply too often that services said "Sorry, we terminate this now"
or even "We encriple this now" to me that I trust such things if I can do
otherwise in a similar way. ATM we could simply copy our backup to a new
server and go on in case our service is shutdown now (with some hard work
reinstalling...). I don't want to give up that possibility for a bit of
additional niceties.
Ciao
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