Chris, I basically agree with you, however, what one can do with Sonar and a lesser powered computer does depend somewhat on what kinds of projects a person is working on.
For example, if you're just recording and processing a single stereo track, this might work okay. Processing might take a bit longer, but it will work. Maybe even having a midi track or two with soft synths would be okay. but, as you say, as soon as you get into a reasonably sized project, you could be severely bogged down. --Pete -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Chris Belle Sent: Friday, June 24, 2011 5:33 AM To: JSonar -- JAWS Scripts for Sonar discussion list Subject: Re: [Jsonar] JSonar scripts in conflict with sonar go look at the minimum specs cakewalk recommends for sonar 8.5 then go do your research on the differences between a real computer and a netbook, the sub-systems, and ram, and slow hard-drives etc. Daws require a lot more from a computer, and yes, the sound card is only one of those issues, you might have gotten by with using sonar 6, but it couldn't have run well on a netbook. Cubass is a good product, and well respected in the industry, again I submit it's probably your inadequate hardware which is causing the problem. Nothing personal, I've been doing this a lot of years, and I teach this stuff every day. I just wish to save you lots of frustration, because you will eventually come to the conclusion that you need better hardware. I guarantee no audio professionals in any studio would be using netbooks to do anything serious with. If you are getting audio drop-outs, well, your computer can't keep up YOu can disable certain things and try to squeeze more performance by shutting down stuff, but your already in a very marginal situation. But if you know better, then I wish you lots of luck 'smile'. At 10:04 PM 6/23/2011, you wrote: >Hello Chris. > Your observation is very interesting, I really > would have to have a more robust computer for > this purpose. But I want to note that when using sonar 6.0, the tools >could run reasonably well, and there were not >invested in an external card. You acknowledge >that, without using the external card, the computer has a greater amount >of information to process, since the basic >internal cards for computers are not designed >for such functions. Therefore, I disagree with the thesis that I could >not get any performance using a netbook, as I >said, I've had the experience to run VSTi >plugins on the board inside the netbook and I see no problem no run on the >sonar 8.0. As for the investment of a better >computer, I think everything has its time, I can >not go investing all the good and the best can not afford. So I believe >I can get reasonable performance with what I >have, and this can not be the only solution to solve the problem. >While I can not properly use sonar, I'm using >Cubase 5.0 with great difficulty, by its >interface more inaccessible than the performance >he is presenting on my machine, >which is very reasonable as not to get to >serious problems. Cubase was chosen in terms of >a music course and I'm doing is working relatively well. Even with respect >to two applications, cubase is much more >unstable than the sonar. In version 6 Sonar no >longer has support for most cards asio, lives in version 8.0 has problems >in time to put in effect by choosing tracks midi >controlers ... Anyway, I think this is not the >only solution. Greetings, Gabriel > > >-----Mensagem original----- >De: Chris Belle <[email protected]> >Para: JSonar -- JAWS Scripts for Sonar discussion list <[email protected]> >Data: Quinta, 23 de Junho de 2011 20:27 >Assunto: Re: [Jsonar] JSonar scripts in conflict with sonar > >It's a big mistake to expect any decent performance with a netbook. > >netbooks are cheap low performance computers, >never mind the specs, what's under the hood is >roughly equivalent to a pentium 3 700 mhz >machine, and just be glad it's working at all. > >I went through this with one of my students who >insisted on using a netbook, and we wasted lots >of time trying to put things to rights which will never work. > >YOu just don't have a computer powerful enough to run sonar 8.5 properly. > >I might run sonar 4 on it, or reaper >with light loads, not expecting any processing >but to track with, but you should get a more >powerful computer, and if you expect good laptop >performance, you need to be very picky and choosy >about which models, and again, you get what you pay for. > >Best regards. > > > > >At 06:13 PM 6/23/2011, you wrote: > >Hello everyone! > >It is the first time that I am part of this list > >as I think everyone here does not know me, I should introduce myself. > >My name is Gabriel Benhur Schuck, I'm from > >Brazil and Counseling to join this list by > >Victor Tsaran to ask him to help solve a few > problems I have with both scripts > >and sonar, as if they were in conflict. Still > >could not figure out what might be happening > >and, as Victor said, because a lot of hardware / software > >configurations that can be made, it is difficult > >to JSonar or other developers are able to > >determine what would be recommended. For this reason, I am asking for > >your > >help, as it has become > >a task of my day to day doing music production > >and the use of software that do not waste my > >time with interfaces unfriendly and inaccessible, such as Sonar. > >I was using version 6.0, and not be working with > >the asio of my external card, migrated to > >version 8.0. I downloaded all the scripts correct and I opted for automatic > >installation. Until then everything was working > >perfectly. But suddenly, I started having > >problems when playing virtual instruments in real-time execution. began > >the message sonar audio dropout. I did all the > >suggestions found in the program's help, but to > >no avail. I chose to reinstall the software and also the scripts, > >but I could not run the setup Wisard and > >activate the JSonar control surfaces properly. When I tried to re-enable the > >file before running Sonar Producer 8.0 > >accessibility mode.reg , said it was already > >active. In sonar, going into options and then > click Control surfaces, appeared > >the JSonar active control surfaces. Plugins returned > >to work, but it did not take long for the > >performance of the sonar had before. Now, the > current situation is as follows: > >When I open a new project in the application > >that generally has four blank tracks and you > >want to insert a VSTi plugin with the option insert> soft sint, the script > >does not follow this change and states that > >still has four tracks on the project, thus > >ignoring what had been added. This sometimes happens, sometimes not. When > >it happens, the plugin (any one that is) does > >not play. But when the script recognizes, then > >they usually work, although it is always necessary to manually adjust > >the output of a midi track to the plugin, which > >until then was done automatically. I'm using an > >Acer Aspire One netbook with Windows XP. Intel (r) Atom (tm) 1.60GHz > >with 2 GB ram, 160 gb hd and sound card usb > >PreSonus AudioBox. Jaws 12.0.1158. Maximum > >display resolution set to 100 X 600 pixels. 32-bit color quality. > >Obsefvação: The reason I made the migration to > >Sonar 8 was precisely because it offers better > >support for asio most boards that support this feature, as is the > >case of AudioBox. I tried to check out other > >versions, but can not work with the board in > >this mode and nothing worked to solve the problem. Moreover, if the script > >is presenting these strange behaviors with the > >sonar, it's impossible to know for sure if the > >JSonar Control Surface is set up correctly. I hope you can help me, > >because I had to use it much. 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