Dan lagian ini juga bukan first strike langsung di-sue. Google kan dah berulang2 kali dengan sengaja ngelanggar paten java. Didiemin sih lama2 Larry Page bakal one morning nyelonong ke dapur Larry Elisson ngambil susu dari kulkas.
2010/8/17 Hendry Luk <hendrym...@gmail.com> > Sorry am i missing something? > Gw gak ngerti.... Google blatantly negalnggar pattent java. Biarpun lu > open-source, gak berarti lu bisa seenaknya langgar pattent orang. Paten ya > paten, mesti lu respect. Open source gak berarti di atas law. > > Oracle kan juga company.. sama kayak meruvian. Gimana kalo projectnya > Meruvian seenaknya dicuri company rival, buat diUANGkan, dibikin open source > buat apparent COMMERCIAL purpose. Bikin company rival lu makin kaya raya.. > dan lu ngerasa dicuri. > > Google emang kayak robin hood, ngerampok the riches, ngasih ke the poors. > Simpati kita, rakyat jelata, ya ke google, tapi gak berarti what they're > doing is right, legal, ato even ethical. > > 2010/8/15 Frans Thamura <fr...@meruvian.org> > > >> >> yah itu kan ego james pengen semua dan hanya 1 Java didunia ;0 >> >> gue aliran suka banyak Java didunia, tetapi tentu saja, java yang ada beda >> dengan Java yang dari ORacle ini >> >> gue kan pendukung inovasi dan percaya inovasi akan sangat bagus kalau Java >> tidak di kuasai Oracle ;) >> >> makanya buat yang JUG dg kata Sun supported, kena kan sekarang. :) >> >> lagian kasus android vs java me ini terjadi di USA saja, dan hanya di USA >> saja yang mendukung software paten >> >> di indnesia lo buat android A, B , C legal bro ;) >> >> dan kita lg maju buat ini bisa terjadi >> >> intinya kalau Google pusing gak mau bayar 10 billion US$ setahun ke >> Oracle, kasih gue androidnya, gue terusin dan gue bisa jalanin android gak >> perlu bayar 1 upil pun ke ORacle ;) >> >> huahua, nah itu arti "ball"-nya James ;) >> >> >> -- >> Frans Thamura >> Director >> Meruvian. >> The Most Complete Java Services Provider in Indonesia >> >> >> Mobile: +6287885901958 >> Blog & Profile: http://frans.thamura.info >> >> We grow because we share the same belief. >> >> >> >> On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 10:38 PM, Yudhi Karunia Surtan < >> brainmaster...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> Frans ini pernyataan dari si gosh.. >>> >>> Posted by *James Gosling* <http://www.rabblesoft.com/> on August 13, >>> 2010 at 09:14 AM PDT >>> #<http://nighthacks.com/roller/jag/entry/the_shit_finally_hits_the#comment-1281716060000> >>> Oracle is right. Google is wrong. Google SCREWED with Java big time. >>> Google took Java, compiled Java code into Java bytecode, then translated >>> that into Dalvik bytecode to run on the Dalvik virtual machine. Then Google >>> avoided calling its language Java. Thus Google avoided having to license >>> Java IP from Sun. Google created a work-around for Java Mobile Edition >>> (which is NOT GPL'd). Google screwed Java and Sun. And now Google is going >>> to pay Oracle for its sins. Sure, Google has lawyers. But Oracle has lawyers >>> too and Oracle is better at suing others than Google has been. Oracle is the >>> second largest software company in the world - second only to Microsoft. It >>> makes lots of money. And it plays to big business. Believe it when it sues >>> Google. >>> >>> Maka yg lu bilang paling ntar paling di ganti jadi java me yah itu >>> kemungkinan paling besar. >>> >>> >>> Maaap... salah2x.. tanya pernyataan dari si gosling di atasnya.. >>> malu jadinya.. >>> pernyataan dari si gosling ga taunya yg ini..(click link # nya) >>> >>> @James grow some balls please. >>> >>> Maap yaaah... miss undestanding tadi gw.. mungkin keasikan baca jadi ga >>> perhatiin. :D >>> >>> On Aug 14, 2010, at 10:19 PM, Yudhi Karunia Surtan wrote: >>> >>> Frans ini pernyataan dari si gosh.. >>> >>> Posted by *James Gosling* <http://www.rabblesoft.com/> on August 13, >>> 2010 at 09:14 AM PDT >>> #<http://nighthacks.com/roller/jag/entry/the_shit_finally_hits_the#comment-1281716060000> >>> Oracle is right. Google is wrong. Google SCREWED with Java big time. >>> Google took Java, compiled Java code into Java bytecode, then translated >>> that into Dalvik bytecode to run on the Dalvik virtual machine. Then Google >>> avoided calling its language Java. Thus Google avoided having to license >>> Java IP from Sun. Google created a work-around for Java Mobile Edition >>> (which is NOT GPL'd). Google screwed Java and Sun. And now Google is going >>> to pay Oracle for its sins. Sure, Google has lawyers. But Oracle has lawyers >>> too and Oracle is better at suing others than Google has been. Oracle is the >>> second largest software company in the world - second only to Microsoft. It >>> makes lots of money. And it plays to big business. Believe it when it sues >>> Google. >>> >>> Maka yg lu bilang paling ntar paling di ganti jadi java me yah itu >>> kemungkinan paling besar. >>> >>> >>> On Aug 14, 2010, at 11:03 AM, agoes wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> jadi teringat proses akusisi sun saja dulu banyak pertentangan di eropa , >>> ternyata kejadian juga tentang system monopoli yang dilakukan >>> oleh oracle. tapi system copypaste yang akan menang selamanya sepertinya >>> hehe... >>> >>> --- In jug-indonesia@yahoogroups.com <jug-indonesia%40yahoogroups.com>, >>> "Frans Thamura" <fr...@...> wrote: >>> > >>> > Makanya semua pasar java akan lawan oracle. >>> > >>> > Saya malah akan melihat yg runtuh adalah amerika >>> > >>> > Karena yg diserang mengacu pada paten software yg hanya berlaku di >>> amerika >>> > >>> > Jadi kita di indo mah aman, juga eropa dan cina >>> > >>> > Ini bukti lemahnya amerika yg pengen kaya dg monopoli ide >>> > >>> > Perang ini kalau google menang, adallah kemenangan opensource >>> > (m) >>> > >>> > -----Original Message----- >>> > From: "agoes" <agoesta...@...> >>> > Sender: jug-indonesia@yahoogroups.com<jug-indonesia%40yahoogroups.com> >>> > Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2010 02:33:06 >>> > To: <jug-indonesia@yahoogroups.com <jug-indonesia%40yahoogroups.com>> >>> > Reply-To: jug-indonesia@yahoogroups.com<jug-indonesia%40yahoogroups.com> >>> > Subject: [JUG-Indonesia] Pernyataan James Gosling masalah Oracle Sue Ke >>> Google >>> > >>> > >>> http://nighthacks.com/roller/jag/entry/the_shit_finally_hits_the#comments >>> > >>> > perlawanan google momentum awal untuk membela project opensource >>> > dunia yang menggunakan java. >>> > siap siap aja apa yang terjadi .. >>> > terjadi perperangan besar .. >>> > moga aja project JUG juga tidak kena Sue oleh oracle >>> > hehe >>> > trim's >>> > by/ag >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > ------------------------------------ >>> > >>> > ==== >>> > Buktikan Anda peduli pendidikan Indonesia. >>> > Dukung Kurikulum SMK berJava.. kirimkan surat resmi perusahaan dukungan >>> ke moderator JUG. >>> > === >>> > >>> > Kalau mau keluar dari mailing list ini, caranya kirim sebuah email ke >>> jug-indonesia-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com<jug-indonesia-unsubscribe%40yahoogroups.com> >>> > >>> > Jangan lupa, website JUG Indonesia adalah http://www.jug.or.id >>> > >>> > Yahoo! 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