I agree~ -----Original Message----- From: labradoodles@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Renie Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 11:41 PM To: labradoodles@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [labradoodles] Re: Breeding
I have to say something here .. I want to thank this person who adopted this dog or saved her from a puppy mill you are truly a kind and caring person to take her into your heart . I am sure you love her and are very proud of her and she is a wonderful companion . Just because she is a rescue doesn't mean she is a less of a doodle then some come from a so call breeder and some times these rescue dogs turn out to be the best of the best .. So I thank you for stepping forward and asking the question about breeding and I hope the rush of e mails didn't scare you away from the list .... Again thank you for rescuing her .. Renie NC -------Original Message------- From: Abigail Morrison <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: 3/26/2007 11:13:06 PM To: labradoodles@yahoogroups.com <mailto:labradoodles@yahoogroups.com> Subject: Re: [labradoodles] Re: Breeding Did you adopt her from somebody who does puppymill rescue? I have had a few foster labradoodles from puppymills and I would never adopt out an unaltered dog. Our vets do pediatric spay neuters (the studies are not totally conclusive at this time as to the long term health problems that might go with pediatric speuters, but when you consider how many lives are saved by NOT being bred, it is worth it to us). It is usually recommended to speuter BEFORE 6 months, most of the vets I know usually say 16 weeks, Same time as they get the rabies shots. Puppymills are NOTORIOUS for dogs with genetic conditions. I am SOOOOO glad that you are rethinking breeding her. Honestly, the only reason that somebody should breed is to better the breed and, like somebody else mentioned it is done with painstaking research. I have always had my animals fixed and really know nothing about breeding. I do know that my neighbors cats had kittens in my garage one y two cats had 5 kittens each and 7 of those were female. It didn't take me too long to guestimate that if I didn't have all of those cats fixed, I would have 9 females (the 7 kittens plus the two moms) having 5 kittens each within the next year and if there were 31 females of those 45 kittens, we would have 40 moms having kittens the next breeding season. It was the best lesson in exponential growth that I have ever come across and the best reason that I can give people to spay and neuter their animals. Anyways, like I said, I am so glad to hear that you are going to be having her spayed. If you are ever looking for another one, I am in southern mid Michigan, not too far from the Indiana border and would be happy to help you find another one in need of a good home. Abbie alialx2 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: One more question - When is a good age to have her spayed. I have never had a female before. I think my Vet suggested 6 months. What is your opinion?--- In labradoodles@yahoogroups.com <mailto:labradoodles%40yahoogroups.com> , "Kendra Vestal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I would like to add that just because your dog passes its health tests does > not mean that it should be bred, you must also study the test results of the > parents of your dog and if possible the test results of their parents too. > > HD is a recessive disorder that can be passed down many generations. Your > dog may test out well but because it is in the line it can sneak up and > affect the puppies. > > -----Original Message----- > From: labradoodles@yahoogroups.com <mailto:labradoodles%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:labradoodles@yahoogroups.com <mailto:labradoodles%40yahoogroups.com> ] On > Behalf Of Abigail Morrison > Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 7:56 PM > To: labradoodles@yahoogroups.com <mailto:labradoodles%40yahoogroups.com> > Subject: Re: [labradoodles] Breeding > > Before you go just breeding your dog to any old dog, please, please, please > do research on breeding. I have a really great site for you to look at > http://www.woodhavenlabs.com/breeding/breeder2.html< have > young doodles with hip dysplasia if they think it is fun to deal with a dog > , or worse a puppy, who wants to play but can't because of the pain it is > in. Are you prepared to be responsible for those puppies for the rest of > their lives? Do you plan on selling these puppies on spay neuter contracts > or will you have them fixed before they are sold? If you don't have any > plans for having the puppies fixed, are you prepared to deal with the > offspring of those puppies? The labradoodles who are dying in shelters were > bred by somebody who was just out to make a buck and wouldn't take > responsibility for that life when it came time. Good breeders take their > puppies back at any time, for any reason. Another thing that a good breeder > does is not make money. They do the testing needed, sometimes on both > parents, and make sure that mom and the puppies only have the best vet care, > shots, wormed, deflead. I have never known a breeder who breeds for the > right reasons, to better the breed, to ever make money doing it. They do it > because they spend countless hours figuring out which two dogs to breed to > make the best puppy of that breed in the world. > I have spent 5 years working at vet offices and have seen so many people > who either spend thousands of dollars because something unexpected happened, > or they have to have mom and or the puppies put down because they weren't > prepared for the unexpected. PLEASE be prepared to spend thousands of > dollars, everytime a bitch has puppies, it can be dangerous and, take it > from me, you will never need those emergency vet visits when the vet is > open, it will always cost more because it is after hours. Here is an idea of > what it will cost to do things right. <http://www.woodhavenlabs.com/breeding/breeder2.html> http://www.godivalabs.com/cost.html <http://www.godivalabs.com/cost.html> > If you would like to help out with the homeless ones, I would love to > help you to learn more about fostering, that way we can save more doodles > who will be killed rather than adding to the problem. > Plus, spaying your dog before her first heat is something you can do to > add years to her.http://www.caninesports.com/SpayNeuter.html <her.http://www.caninesports.com/SpayNeuter.html> > Good luck, I hope that if you do decide to breed, you will do it AFTER > you have done your research, so that nobody has to deal with a puppy with > hip dysplasia or other genetic problems because you didn't do your homework. > Abbie > > lx2 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I am looking for a male Labradoodle in the Illinois/St.Louis to > breed > with my female labradoodle in approx 2-4 months. 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