Devon, I'm with Lorelei, I can't see tallies, so I'm not sure of this identification, but if it's braids connecting the motifs, how about mid-18th C Brussels? Laurie Waters identified a very similar piece for me as "Brussels a Brides", probably Flemish given the quality.
Elizabeth Kurella makes a good argument for avoiding the label Point d'Angleterre altogether because it was used for two distinctly different kinds of lace. I'll check the details when I get home, so I don't muddle the info. Nancy On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 7:40 PM, Lorelei Halley <lhal...@bytemeusa.com> wrote: > Devon > Very interesting. I couldn't get close enough to either piece to see > tallies > or other details. Stylistically these fit in the first 2 decades of the > 1700s. I would think the label "Flemish" is appropriate, or possibly "early > Brussels". This doesn't fit with the pieces usually called "point > d'Angleterre" (which usually match mid 18th c style). > As to whether they might be Honiton, the problem is that we don't have any > external evidence of what Honiton laces looked like in the 18th century. We > do know that 19th and 20th c Honiton Liked to use many different fillings > in > the same piece, and many of those are tally-based. But that does not give > us > certainty that 18th century Honiton did the same. In fact we don't even > have > any certainty that the Devon area made any part lace bobbin lace during > that > time. Levey seems to think there was some (she coined the term "Bath > Brussels" to describe that kind). What I am sure of is that we can't assume > that 18th century Honiton (if it existed) looked anything like 19th or 20th > c Honiton. > Going back to your 2 examples -- those braids which connect the motifs to > each other are typical of laces from the early 18th c. > Lorelei > > > From: owner-l...@arachne.com [mailto:owner-l...@arachne.com] On Behalf Of > devonth...@gmail.com > Subject: [lace] lappets, each pair unique? Honiton v. Flemish? > In my continuing study of whether the term point db > > - > To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: > unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to > arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: > http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/ > - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
