On Wednesday 08 September 2004 04:45, EERTMANS Nicolas wrote:
> 
> Epson prints with the NCA options are very dark. Of course, a profile 
should compensate for that, but the problem is to first get a good 
scan of the (dark) target print to build profiles.
> 
> The scanners I used were not able to properly scan the dark patches 
of the target. I had no access to a good spectro. Consequently, the 
profiles were not too good for the shadows.
> 
> The author of Profile Prism recommends profiling against sRGB instead 
of NCA in the Epson driver and I have found this to help.

I also use Profile Prism.  The latest releases of Profile Prism include 
a special target for profiling Epson printers in NCA mode.  But even 
with this special target you need a scanner with very good dynamic 
range and a driver with the ability to do raw scans.

I use a Canon LeDI 20 with VueScan Pro.  The Canon scanner uses 3 light 
emitting diodes (red, green and blue) and as a result the scans have 
very low levels of metamerism.  This is important because the printer 
target and the IT8 target will have different inks and therefore will 
have different metamerism characteristics particularly with the 
florescent lights that most scanners use.  I felt that I did not get 
good results with a scanner that had a florescent light.   This 
depends on the inks you are using and pigment inks are much harder to 
profile because of higher levels of metamerism.   

VueScan Pro will do raw scans and also will do multi-pass averaged 
scans which results in very low noise in the darker patches of the 
target (increased dynamic range).  It took me a while to figure out a 
workable combination of hardware, software and settings to make this 
work but I now get very good printer profiles now.  Perhaps not as 
good as having a good spectro but better than the stock profiles by a 
significant margin.  I get slightly better results in NCA mode.

> 
> Nicolas 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Louis 
Solomon [SteelBytes]
> Sent: Wednesday 08 September 2004 08:15
> To: 
> Subject: [Lcms-user] Epson printer drivers for Windows
> 
> [from another thread]
> > ... I don't think my Windows Epson 1280 driver sends raw data to 
the 
> > printer ...
> 
> after _lots_ of experimentation with epson windows drivers (v5.x for 
the 
> 2100,925,R800), I found what I believe to be the correct settings for 
> profile work (both printing test charts for calibration, and using 
the 
> generated ICC profiles) ...
> 
> for drivers versions that offer the choice of
>     'no colour adjustment'
>     or
>     'ICM'
>     or
>     'other stupid epson stuff'
> choose
>     'no colour adjustment'
> 
> for drivers that offer
>     'ICM'
>     or
>     'other stupid epson stuff'
> choose
>     'ICM' and tick 'no colour adjustment'
> 
> oh, and _never_ use the ICC profiles that come with the drivers (eg, 
> EE_177__1.ICM)
> 
> for other settings, just pick ther paper type&size, print quality (I 
found 
> 'best photo' to be the best choice as it was the most consistent 
between 
> prints), and turn off 'edge smoothing' as it does a really f'n dodgy 
job.
> 
> and lastly, don't forget to allow the test charts to dry for at least 
> several hours before shooting them with your spectro.
> 
> 
> Louis Solomon
> www.steelbytes.com
> 
> 
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