that sounds more like my conclusion, it is the end of the road for share alike and sharing for osm. basically it is turning into a dead end road. well guys please help bekim, i have sent him to you, mike
On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 9:18 PM, Alex Barth <a...@mapbox.com> wrote: > > Mike, I think we should come to a clearer recommendation, specifically with > regards to share-alike data. > > The highly infectuous character of share alike licenses severely restricts > OSM's leeway of adjusting its license and we shouldn't paint ourselves into a > corner this way. > > Here are the simple rules I do recommend currently when talking to people and > that I would love OSM to adopt officially. > > Contribute only data that is: > > - Yours > - Is public domain or merely requires attribution > - You have an explicit permission from owner for contribution to OSM for > > BTW, I actually think there are only very few potential datasets that are in > question here. I have doubts whether ODbL is actually compatible given OSMF's > option to change the license to another open license in the future, and > CC-BY-SA is clearly not compatible as it does not distinguish between derived > and produced works. > > On Sep 20, 2012, at 11:26 AM, Michael Collinson <m...@ayeltd.biz> wrote: > >> On 20/09/2012 07:32, Mike Dupont wrote: >>> Hi there, >>> >>> I have a question about imports and the ODBl, >>> >>> I see that some sources have decided to dual license the data >>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Catalogue >>> >>> But how can some third parties data be compatible when the CT says it >>> can change any time, surly they might be compatible with the current >>> instance of the license, but how can they be compatible with future >>> versions of the license when they are no known? >>> >>> How can a contributor import any data and keep the data open to >>> license change? How can you keep any imports at all from people who >>> have not agreed to the CT directly? >>> >>> thanks >>> mike >>> >> This one has been covered pretty exhaustively previously. To recap for all >> interested: >> >> () The CTs where written carefully to say, "If you contribute Contents, You >> are indicating that, as far as You know, You have the right to authorize >> OSMF to use and distribute those Contents under our current licence terms." >> "current license terms", so ODbL 1.0. >> >> () The future is the future, so cannot be known. >> >> () Should the license terms change in the future, there is a possibility >> that imported data may become incompatible. Therefore the original licensor >> needs be contacted for approval. Given the general trend to more open data, >> after what we are all about, that approval may well be given. >> >> () Note also that, by design, a duty to provide first level attribution is >> placed on the OSMF. This survives any potential license change and is >> general the most important concern of government organisations. >> >> () The is always the possibility that data may need to be removed and that >> is one of the minuses of imports. That is why it is important to always >> understand third-party licenses and to get general consent of any >> potentially affected, usually national or regional level, OSM mapping >> community before importing. There is a healthy debate indirectly about this >> going on in the general talk list. >> >> Mike >> >> _______________________________________________ >> legal-talk mailing list >> legal-talk@openstreetmap.org >> http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk > > Alex Barth > http://twitter.com/lxbarth > tel (+1) 202 250 3633 > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > legal-talk mailing list > legal-talk@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk -- James Michael DuPont Member of Free Libre Open Source Software Kosova http://flossk.org Saving wikipedia(tm) articles from deletion http://SpeedyDeletion.wikia.com Contributor FOSM, the CC-BY-SA map of the world http://fosm.org Mozilla Rep https://reps.mozilla.org/u/h4ck3rm1k3 _______________________________________________ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
