Mike Dupont writes:
On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 4:41 PM, Stephan Knauss <o...@stephans-server.de> wrote:
This is a good reason to have contributor terms.
the contributor terms introduce more problems, like the fact that it
prevents anyone from importing any derived works.
lets say i download the new cc-by-sa+odbl database make changes and
publish them, then you want to import them back, you cannot because I
did not agree to the terms.
That's the price you have to pay for your peace of mind to be sure to have
clean data in your database with the current license and any future.
Apache Foundation has the same problem. They can only bring back data with
a signed contributor paper.
so the sharealike just fails when you introduce cts with a copyright
assignment, in my opinion, or am I missing something?
Sharealike is for people who use OSM data. It prevents from 3rd party
taking the data and turn it into proprietary stuff.
Basically the CTs prevent any other compatible OSM servers to share
data with osm, it creates an island of data with no way to share with
anyone except via usage.
From OSM to 3rd party is fine, the way back is IMHO not possible with the
current contributor terms. Problems would start once we change the license
again.
So modifying the CTs to exclude the "or any other license" clause might
improve the situation. But we could never upgrade the license. Also sounds
like a bad idea given the experience gained with the switch to ODbL. We do
not want to have a redaction bot 3.0.
OSM contributors must grant OSMF all rights to use and redistribute the
data, might be called in German "uneingeschränktes Nutzungsrecht" ~
"nonexclusive, unlimited right of use".
The current terms use some different words but it sounds exactly like this.
I see no point where you are required to give away your copyright. In
German law this is not possible at all and OSMF explicitly states
"non-exclusive". So you keep all the rights of your data.
You can't withdraw your permission in the future if you dislike the OSMF
way.
This protects the future of the project but it costs you some
interoperability. Only original copyright holder can pass the needed rights
to OSMF and thus only these can contribute.
It sounds like a good way to prevent from white-washing tainted data by
passing through a 3rd party.
If an import can't give the usage rights I think we should not import this
data.
Stephan
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