-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 08/13/2013 01:58 AM, Tom O wrote: > That's not a good enough reason to trust Germany.
And I don't. I trust the German people to stand up when it counts. Because they know the consequence of failing to do so. > Ensuring privacy is not a requirement of the state anymore, it's > the responsibility of the citizen. A fully agree. But this requires a population cognitivly capable of acknowledging the problem. So it's all about political and historical awareness. In the Netherlands and the UK people think privacy is something you need so you can masturbate without others knowing. In Germany people understand that privacy is needed so people can resist their government if that ever becomes important again. People just have to get used to the counterintuitive idea that one can flee *to* Germany in the face of encroaching corporatism/facism ;-) - -- Met vriendelijke groet/With kind regards, Arjen Kamphuis Gendo B.V. Main: +31 20 891 0330 mail: ar...@gendo.ch gendo.ch (website) gendo.nl/blog/arjen (Dutch blog) gendo.ch/en/blog/arjen (English blog) about.me/arjenkamphuis (social media) files.gendo.nl/keys/ar...@gendo.ch.asc (public key) PGP fingerprint: 55FB B3B7 949D ABF5 F31B BA1D 237D 4C50 118A 0EC2 Gendo BV Wibautstraat 150, 1091 GR Amsterdam The Netherlands P please consider the environment before printing this email ============================================================ This e-mail message and its attachments are subject to the disclaimer published at the following website of Gendo: http://www.gendo.nl/disclaimer Gendo B.V. is registered with the trade register in The Netherlands under number 28116864. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with undefined - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJSCYEcAAoJECN9TFARig7CsqQP/0nJ07+uQ8Kah8TAfmwhbQHL hkZXMB4nUonufyp0nn/Ld/GfVitjDZuuskFqiNOU+Cj2gm/JyEPHFAToAZANSwjE UBycuCGToqKWS9w/WUZcMF+KFqgNXtSMRvQF5hMj0ldpYE2LLIMS/RwG2BcEK2Lc w80fJabUzZ9ETQfs+PS8SeMcNU+TegFKSrGx0WmOQ1EkrwkW4GFDorDCYU4A4PNW 05uMgIINQCJVg+XDopsorq6GFwE114J8dvlBr6AQUv6rDbbEBlCL4Yy16HgwC2xX QvA/EqmmxD2TfrjNS/DpBxTOA172deH/bnwR430MY21+AFGRXiPZI9FlVf3DOqBr LCWG3epO4l2VNR9Opa9SEe3vZ6X3Fe3aGwlq7N0XPb0Z26fxyPAoGanKJJASRN5H tUm0cIJD8HUPh9vIC2SpLvtpvbFVLlejM34oDEWMx549q+lwQKWRi1Ake81fk6Fa w9mkteG4jIu0kiBOVlG5WHNCcOiPm1s6vbOsahw11fBmC1amhrrA/VQeekhR+/Ds 6nQeueTpRPWy/9Jy2yrqZ/fOnfvlWI6QQX3bAmgrX8nv03jp9lx30TzWBTORUQwg YV9OzxQhdo8VN7J7nBUZqM3Q4fcy58+6Xq5LF7z+83Ficcq+EfpSvJnnr8Hdcrfi JVDvD6zMwoayAta1ski5 =3MQ6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- Liberationtech is a public list whose archives are searchable on Google. Violations of list guidelines will get you moderated: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech. Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu.