On 06/14/2018 03:13 PM, Yosem Companys wrote: > Here are LT's major needs: > > - Recruit people to develop a new website, logo, and graphics.
Ping me off line to chat about how I can help. > - Identify a legal jurisdiction with strong security and privacy laws > and regulations and a server provider with a stellar reputation at > protecting user security and privacy to host the site. Iceland? > - Determine whether to maintain LT's mailing lists on Mailman > <https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech> or to > transition them to a content management system (e.g., Discourse.org). If it ain't broken, don't touch the thing. "Stick with mailman" is what gets my vote. I don't want yet-another-site-to-log-into to read LT discussions. I want LT right here in my mailbox. It's low barrier and facilitates interaction, as opposed to some CMS that now I have to go and log into and then figure out what's interesting or not, and what I may want to read or reply to... I'm never going to do that...(*) E-mail is right there in my inbox: I have my own copy, I can do with it what I want, I don't have to log into some other place, it fits nicely in my existing workflows... and mailman is kind enough to give me a searchable archive. Now, whether we stick with Stanford's mailman or not, /that/ I don't care too much about, I care that it's not locked up behind some other system I now have to have an account with... I care that it stays an e-mail list. Regardless of whatever CMS we pick, if we were to go that route, there's always going to be some problem with it where we want to do X or Y and we can't quite do it. With e-mail, everyone can pick the client they like: (al)pine, mutt, Thunderbird, outlook (if you're so included) or gmail (yuk). Everyone gets to pick the tool they like best, instead of everyone being forced to use system X or Y and being strapped into the harness of how that tool thinks you ought to interact with its world. I think that part of the value of the LT mailman service is that is specifically is NOT an Internet forum and that it specifically is an e-mail list, which facilitates conversations where the focus is on content and ideas. If I want a forum, I'll go to reddit or some similar site. (Speaking of which, https://www.reddit.com/r/liberationtech apparently has been banned? Is this this same LibTech?) Remind me what it is that Discourse offers that plain-text e-mail does not? > - Assess the best legal structure for LT (e.g., digital cooperative). Outside of my field of expertise... (*) I don't mean this as a threat, at all (after all, I have nothing to threaten you with), but if you're putting LT behind some other wall/gate, I know myself well enough to be able to tell you with high confidence that you'll lose me from LT... and I think a couple of others as well... -- Liberationtech is public & archives are searchable on Google. Violations of list guidelines will get you moderated: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech. Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing the moderator at zakwh...@stanford.edu.
