Hi Kevin, If you want a simple (and free) "scheduler" for VM I'll be happy to send you a little REXX EXEC that will do what you need. You'll need the WAKEUP MODULE which formerly was a part of the separately licensed "CMS Utilities Feature" (CUF), but if you are running z/VM 4 I understand it is now bundled in and should work fine.
I'm pretty sure z/OS does not include tape management and/or backup software on a "bare bones" system either, they are optional licensed program products. IBM used to re-sell VMBackup, VMTape (and maybe VMSchedule, it's been so long now I forget) under the IBM logo having recognized that they were truly "best of breed" products. That's when the products were owned by VM Software, Inc. (which became Sterling Software, which became Computer Associates..... Hmmmm, I know I missed a generation in there somewhere - Ah yes, I think between VMSI and Sterling there was Systems Center....). Michael Coffin, VM Systems Programmer Internal Revenue Service - Room 6527 1111 Constitution Avenue, N.W. Washington, D.C. 20224 Voice: (202) 927-4188 FAX: (202) 622-3123 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -----Original Message----- From: Wright, Kevin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, June 03, 2002 5:08 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Oracle I/O and LVM questions Michael, Thanks for the info. When IBM first told us we can back up Linux from Z/OS, they did not us any details, hence the confusion now. About the VM stuff, I meant installed and running. We have a bare bones VM system, no non-IBM products installed, nor will there be (we are trialing everything from IFL engine to SuSe). As to your question, have I heard of them? No, I have not. I and my group are new to VM (having dropped VM over 15 years ago) I will have to look into your suggestions about CMS scheduling, once I figure how to get into CMS. Kevin Wright Supervisor, Mainframe Support Enterprise Operations Services Dow Jones & Company, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. -----Original Message----- From: Coffin Michael C [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, June 03, 2002 4:52 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Oracle I/O and LVM questions "How the heck do you back up Linux with LVM under VM???" Well, you don't. Would you try to back up a running z/OS system from VM? You'll either need to take down or otherwise quiesce your Linux/390 systems and run DDR's from VM (or that other system, z/OS) or find a native Linux/390 backup solution and give the Linux/390 guest(s) access to the tape drives. "All my tape devices are allocated to Z/OS and since there really isn't any scheduler or tape mgmt system on VM, I would like to run the backups from Z/OS." Hugh? Of course there are schedulers on VM. Ever hear of "VM:Schedule"? Tape management: "VM:Tape". Backups: "VM:Backup". Of course, these are just the CA products, there are other vendors that also have scheduling, tape management and backup products for VM - but CA's are "best of breed". Even if you don't purchase a product like VM:Schedule, it's a simple enough matter to implement your own "scheduler" under CMS ala VMUTIL and the WAKEUP MODULE. Although I haven't looked yet, I'll bet if you can NFS mount your Linux/390 volumes on CMS VM:Backup can back them up (someone please correct me on this, we're not running NFS on our ESA 2.3.0 system so I can't confirm or deny it). Michael Coffin, VM Systems Programmer Internal Revenue Service - Room 6527 1111 Constitution Avenue, N.W. Washington, D.C. 20224 Voice: (202) 927-4188 FAX: (202) 622-3123 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
