Linux-Advocacy Digest #278, Volume #28 Mon, 7 Aug 00 05:13:04 EDT
Contents:
COMMUNIST AGITATOR/DENIER LOREN GETS SPANKED AGAIN ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: R.E. Ballard says Linux growth stagnating (R.E.Ballard ( Rex Ballard ))
Paging BIG DON ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: AARON KULKIS...USENET SPAMMER, LIAR, AND THUG ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
misc.legal,talk.politics.misc,alt.politics.libertarian,talk.politics.libertarian,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,soc.singles
Subject: COMMUNIST AGITATOR/DENIER LOREN GETS SPANKED AGAIN
Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2000 04:00:43 -0400
Loren Petrich wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Loren Petrich wrote:
>
> >> ROTFL. There is plenty of capitalism in Russia; what direct
> >> evidence is there that it's fakery? I mean *direct* evidence.
> >Yeah. Name ONE significant owner of a large Russian company
> >who is NOT a high ranking member of the Communist Party.
>
> There does not have to be a single one, since if the Yugoslav
> pattern held in the Soviet Union, many Soviet Communists are likely to
> have been "Communists" just to improve their career.
ANSWER THE GODDAMN QUESTION you fucking apologist!
Tell me one person who has been able to get anywhere in Russian
society without selling their soul to the Communist party.
>
> >> George Orwell was *much* smarter than this. He recognized that
> >> Commies could fight each others fiercely, and history has borne this out.
> >When have 2 communist countries EVER fought each other?
>
> Vietnam vs. Cambodia in the 1980's, for example. And although the
> Sino-Soviet split never led to war, it was nevertheless a split.
It's a charade. This was proven during the Nixon administration.
The USS Pueblo was deliberately set-up to be captured, so that
a doctored telex coding machine would be captured; Once the
ship was captured, intelligence services sent out phony traffic
from a similarly doctored machine so that it would be "intercepted"
by the Communists. ... and at the height of the "Sino-Soviet Split"
the Chinese fed all of the intercepted information directly on
to Moscow.
This is a matter of record.
Loren, you're such a fucking fool, it's a wonder you remember to
put on your dorm-cow stretch pants before waddling to the BART
station every morning.
They pretend to be enemies and you gobble it right up.
If they were truly enemies, then why hasn't China invaded
Russia? Their common border is in the regions of Russia which
is hardly inhabited, and China has 8 times the population as
does Russia....and, due to the one-child-per-family rule,
more than 20 times the number of young men who are suitable
for being put under arms.
>
> >Lenin's strategy specifically described taking SEVERAL generations.
>
> Very ingenious.
Careful Loren. You're Glee is showing....communist.
>
> >> Is there any *direct* evidence of some command center that is
> >> orchestrating the seeming multiparty center? If there was, it would have
> >> come out long ago; consider how many other scandals get revealed sooner
> >> or later.
> >We're talking about true devotees...who have a LOT to loose if
> >they talk (like...not only their own lives, but having their
> >entire family slaughtered as well in ... an accident...)
> >...true devotees who have even more conviction than you.
>
> Very ingenious.
and again...
>
> >Golitsyn specifically said in the 1970's that the first country
> >to be "let go" would be Germany...because that would have the
> >greatest psychological impact on the West.
>
> He was wrong there, because in 1989, the Communist regimes fell
> almost simultaneously, over the space of half a year.
E. Germany fell first....exactly as Golitsyn said.
>
> >> However, if there was serious question about which side they are
> >> on, they would not have been allowed to join NATO.
> >You know what ALL con-men have in commmon? The ability to
> >convince people that they are sincere, even though they are not.
>
> Look at it this way, if there were problems with their loyalty,
> it would have become a big controversy by now.
Ever see a movie by a man named Marion Morrison?
Of course you have. But you will never find that name in the
credits...as Marion Morrison spent his entire adult life playing
the part of a character he called "John Wayne".
>
> >Depends. China now has total control of the Panama Canal.
>
> WHAT total control? The most that has happened is that a
> China-based company has acquired some concessions in some port areas. And
> acquired them in a 100% capitalist fashion.
They have control.
The Hutchison-Whampoa company is fully owned by the "Chinese
People's Army (Translation: Chinese Dictator's Army).
Hutchison-Whampoa has legal control of:
* ALL of the canal machinery (locks, etc.)
* The anchorages at both ends
* all of the former US Army bases along the Canal.
* Exclusive rights to pilot all craft in the Canal zone
And they have the right to: "...Refuse passage to *any* vessel,
passage of which is deemed to conflict with the interests of the
Hutchison Whampoa Company, or its investors"
Since the ONLY investor of the H.W. company is the Red Chinese
army, it is quite clear what this contract means...if the
Chinese decide to conduct any military operations, American
naval vessels which wish to travel through the Canal to respond
will be prohibited from doing so.
Once again, you've been royally spanked, asshole.
> --
> Loren Petrich Happiness is a fast Macintosh
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] And a fast train
> My home page: http://www.petrich.com/home.html
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
I: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
J: Loren's Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: "Jeem" Dutton is a fool of the pathological liar sort.
C: Jet plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a method of
sidetracking discussions which are headed in a direction
that she doesn't like.
D: Jet claims to have killfiled me.
E: Jet now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (D) above.
F: Neither Jeem nor Jet are worthy of the time to compose a
response until their behavior improves.
G: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
H: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: R.E.Ballard ( Rex Ballard ) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: R.E. Ballard says Linux growth stagnating
Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2000 08:00:33 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
OSguy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Christopher Browne wrote:
>
> > You might also take a look at either of the URLs below.
> > <http://www.ntlug.org/>
> > I'm one of the officers of a Linux User Group
> with around 2000 members.
> And you keep saying you can't get enough volunteers......
Actually, Chris is a very articulate and considerate Linux advocate.
Chris did used to proof read and suggest revisions, which I often
published. The problem was that we were both spending too much
time working each other, which meant I didn't have time to post.
On one posting Chris asked for a series of references which
took me nearly 200 hours to research (going to multiple libraries,
going to Microfiche archives, and funding out that I was
off by about 6 months.
The problem is that I started my computer career back in 1977,
when somme of the wintrolls were still in diapers. I knew of
Bill Gates, and was acutely aware of his tactis back then.
I started with UNIX in 1982, back in the days when most MS-DOS
Gurus were still trying to simulate mulitasking with TSRs.
I was one of about 200 participants in net.legal who helped
draft the General Public License. At the time, my employer didn't
want to be associated with the effort so my name was witheld from
the list.
I was one of the earliest commercial users of UNIX (doing directory
assistance for AT&T and the Baby Bells).
Needless to say, I remember things as a participant that chris
can't find in the "internet searcable history books".
History itself has a way of changing as well.
I just dug up some of those old 1600 BPI reels with the original
usenet postings. I'm hoping to get them converted and posted
on my site (I gotta get a bigger site :-)
> Obviously not all 2000 members show up for meetings.
> Are you sure you didn't miss a decimal point there?
> Or are you now the treasurer for all of them in
> this country?
>
That certainly sounds like a wintroll statement. There are many
very large Linux user groups, especially on the coasts.
--
Rex Ballard - I/T Architect, MIS Director
Linux Advocate, Internet Pioneer
http://www.open4success.com
Linux - 42 million satisfied users worldwide
and growing at over 5%/month! (recalibrated 8/2/00)
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
misc.legal,talk.politics.misc,alt.politics.libertarian,talk.politics.libertarian,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,soc.singles,soc.culture.african.american
Subject: Paging BIG DON
Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2000 04:40:59 -0400
Donovan Rebbechi wrote:
>
> On Sat, 05 Aug 2000 05:14:39 -0400, Aaron R. Kulkis wrote:
>
> >My source about such things is WOMEN talking about the behavior
> >of OTHER WOMEN.
>
> Yes, but what makes you sound like a kook is your unsupportable assumption
> that this kind of behaviour is commonplace. You make it sound as though
> most women scheme to deceive men into having their children.
Do you have another name for a woman who promises to love, honor,
and cherish a man until death comes between them...and then
promptly divorces him once she has her desired number of kids?
By the way...this is the scenario for 70% of divorces.
>
> >Check out the statistics on the prison population some time.
> >Almost all of them are legally retarded. They spend their
>
> Learn to get your implication arrows the right way around. What about
> all the "stupid" people who aren't in prison ?
If they are able-bodied, then let them starve if they won't make an
honest out how to support themselves.
>
> >lives in prison....i.e. misery...but not without FIRST
> >causing a LOT of misery for a whole lot of other people.
> >
> >What other name is appropriate for someone whose entire
> >life is misery, and who causes misery for practically every
> >other person who is unfortunate enough to have this person
> >wander through their life?
>
> The problem is that you are applying the term "defectives" to people
> whom you consider "genetically inferior". Are you implicitly assuming
> that all of these so called "genetically inferior" people are criminals ?
I'm talking about the millions of RETARDS whom we are sending
BILLIONS of dollars of Welfare and Foodstamps every year!
>
> >What other name is appropriate for an retard with an IQ of 75
> >whose only purpose in life is breeding more IQ-75 children, who
> >repeat the cycle in less than 15 years.
>
> Who knows, maybe the person in question finds themselves a useful
> ( if not terribly prestigious ) role in society. The people who work
> in McDonalds, the mail clerks, the janitors, the guy selling newspapers
> at the train station ... they may not be the worlds brightest people,
> but they certainly perform a useful role in society.
>
> >read a "STOP" sign. Their lives are pure misery, no matter
>
> Now you're trying to draw correlations between "happiness" and
> "intelligence". You've already botched the definition of "intelligence"
> badly enough. How do you propose to measure "happiness" ?
Do you call passing out on the sidewalk "happiness"
How about living an entire life in rat-and-cockroach-infested
dwellings that can only be considered firetraps.
Ever find a live cockroach in your breakfast cereal?
That's reality for these people.
>
> >Now, conversely, if, as you say, the entire problem is that low-
> >income adults are unable to raise children properly...then, maybe
> >you would advocate removing the children of such parents, and
> >putting them in the custody of those who have the necessary
> >wealth to raise many other kids?
>
> Possibly, within the context of your system, of course. It's better
> than punishing the kids.
Their entire lives are nothing but misery.
>
> >Are you arguing that this would solve the problems of children
> >born in neighborhoods of high crime and economic blight?
>
> It would help.
>
> >Are you proposing that we declare all low-income parents as
> >unfit, and forcibly removed them from their homes? After
>
> No. They would only be unfit if they fail to provide proper
> education or medical care for their children.
>
> >And is this not...a rather Nazi-like solution in itself?
>
> It's harsh, but at least it punishes those that you say are guilty. I mean,
> you are blaming the parents and punishing the children. I am merely
> pointing out that it the parents are really to blame, then they are
> the ones who should be punished.
This is just like sending all kinds of "famine relief" to various
third-world countries. The problem is, those in most dire need
of famine-relief are those who ... quite frankly, haven't quite
grasped the connection between sex and having more babies than
they know what to do with....
>
> >> >The country provides everyone with the same opportunities,
> >>
> >> You are speaking in the present tense, hence defending the current system.
> >> Thanks for making my point.
> >
> >And has done so for 3 1/2 decades. So, what's your point?
>
> My point is that radical change is not necessary or desirable.
The current policy doesn't work. In fact, it has exacerbated
the problem. On that basis, let's return to the previous policy
of the government doing ... NOTHING.
It may not have been perfect, but at least it didn't BREED MISERY
(not only for the welfare set themselves, but for everyone who
is unfortunate enough to come in contact with them)!
>
> >> >including the opportunity to help your children, or harm
> >> >your children.
> >>
> >> What about if you are a child ?
> >
> >Then we can prosecute the parents for neglect or abuse.
>
> But then you've got to solve the problem regarding what to do
> with the kid.
As I said...the consequence should be to becoming a ward of the
state, where you will be paid honest wages doing some socially
useful work until you get the motivation to get out.
Not the current: We'll give you an allowance like a child, but
allow you to roam free as a responsible adult. No sirree.
They want to act like a child, then we should treat them like
children. Here is your room. Here is your daily schedule.
This percentage of your pay will be withheld to pay off your
debts. Your room will be searched for drugs and other
contraband every night. If you want to leave the grounds,
then you can only do so under the accompaniment of a guard
(whom you will have to pay for...)
Those who wish to leave...need merely start behaving like
responsible adults, pay off their tax debt as soon as
possible, and continue their newfound motivation to stay
a self-supporting member of society.
And those who _refuse_ to work can starve...at that point,
their children will be let free, to go forth, and carry
on with their parent's miserable end an unmistakeable
lesson forever in their
WELFARE is nothing more than ENSLAVEMENT of those who do work,
and it's about time that this new slave system be terminated.
>
> >No. I am saying that ..those whose intelligence...is exceeded
> >by some dogs...are doomed to a life of misery, no matter how
> >much money we give them.
>
> Again, I'd fault you for claiming that "happiness" is positively
> correlated with intelligence.
If you had to make a bet...let's say... you have to bet your
LIFE...if you guess wrong...you get shot..
Who would YOU bet is happier:
A) The man who wakes up on the sidewalk, who hasn't changed his
clothes in weeks, freshly soaked in his own vomit and urine....
just like every morning.
B) The man who wakes trying to decide whether to buy another
antique car vs. flying to Europe for the weekend.
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm?
The smart money is with...take a wild guess..
>
> >Want some good examples? Watch Howard Stern's show. Harold
>
> I have no desire to watch it.
Neither do I. I don't even watch TV unless I happen to be
at someone's house who is watching it.
>
> [ anecdote snipped ]
>
> A lot of smart people kill themselves too.
I never said they don't.
>
> >Ok. Punish the adults. What do you propose that we do,
> >without allowing the procedure tobecome yet another
> >reproductive strategy based on the "cuckold" principle
>
> The cuckoo doesn't get punished for its actions, so there is no
> legal deterrent to its behaviour.
Of course not when we encourage it with Welfare.
>
> [ absurd conspiracy rant snipped ]
>
What's wrong. You don't want to recognize this?
Ignoring the argument is not victory
[Reinstated for new readers
> > > [ bullshit conspiracy theories snipped ]
> >
> > Every government in the world actively engages in conspiracies.
> > Every government in the world openly acknowledges the existance
> > of conspiracies. Proof: I challenge you to find one felony
> > trial where there are 2 or more defendants and the words
> > "Conspiracy to ..." are not found in the list of charges against
> > them.
> >
> > EVERY TIME you find a felony trial of 2 or more people, I can
> > guarantee that you will find the words "Conspiracy" amongst the
> > list of charges.
> >
> > Do you think for a moment, that opposing governments are going
> > to openly announce their plans to destabilize each other ????
> >
> > Of course not! Therefore, all concerned are actively engaged
> > in conspiracies at this very moment.
> >
> >
> > To deny this is to place oneself squarely in the "utterly naive"
> > corner of the classroom.
> >
> >
>
> >> Again, there are countries with a lot more leftists and considerably
> >> more leftist education policies that soundly whip the US's butt.
> >
> >Of course. The communists WANT communist countries to have a
> >well-educated populace (as long as the general public remain
> >ignorant of the concepts of human rights, market economics,
> >history, and the sciences of psychology and propaganda). Thus,
> >they will promote good education in left-leaning governments.
>
> I see. So you admit that their socialist education policies are
> indeed succesful?
ONLY When it serves the purposes OF THE GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS.
Whether the individual within the society benefits is of
none of their concern.
> Or maybe the thing is that these forces of
> darkness are just so omnipotent that they can make an education system
> work or not work regardless of how good or bad the government
> education policies are ? Maybe we should hire some of the defectors
> to perform the same magic tricks on the schools in the US ...
All one has to do is re-institute "tracking", where all students
are put into a "fast-paced" classroom at the start. Those who
fail to keep up are dropped back into progressively slower tracks.
This is what they do in practically EVERY first-world country,
the only exceptions being the USA and Canada.
>
> >However, as long as the American populace is properly educated,
> >then they will resist communism.
>
> That's funny -- a lot of these so-called "socialist" countries have
> a better educated population than America.
That's because the Communists are engaged in a specific campaign
to NEUTER the United States through internal collapse. Taking
hold of the education system, and practicing a campaign of deliberate
sabotage is one of the fundamental methods.
What the fuck do you think "invented spelling" and "ebonics" is?
NO SANE person who wants well-educated people to graduate from
the schools would adopt such systems. Truly patriotic Americans
on school boards consistently vote against this nonsense, but
the NEA is indirectly controlled by the Communist Party, and
thus the result. The whole idea is to weaken the USA as much
as possible in the face of Russia and China. Unfortunately,
they are winning...they have done a thorough job in the K-12
public schools, and rapidly taking control of the collegiate
arena as well.
>
> > Thus, the campaign to turn
> >the American population into a land of idiots.
> >
> >Unfortunately, it is quite apparent that they are succeeding.
>
> Yes -- by the same method that you wish to destroy the lower classes --
> they are letting nature take its course.
Wrong. A lot of parents are trying to fight it. But the School
Boards get their elections moved to obscure days. The general
public is rarely notified.... They're all at work while all of
the teacher's union members are (surprise) voting for the
NEA-backed Communist-puppet.
Why do you assume that every observation of what LARGE GROUPS
OF PEOPLE (such as the NEA) are doing is a "weird conspiracy
theory"? Do you really think that the NEA would fucking announce
that its primary objective is to destroy the public schools in
this country? Of course not, they would be run out of town on
a rail.
Yet, it doesn't take a genius to see that this *IS* in fact,
exactly their mission.
Or do you dispute the facts above.
> --
> Donovan
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
I: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
J: Loren's Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: "Jeem" Dutton is a fool of the pathological liar sort.
C: Jet plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a method of
sidetracking discussions which are headed in a direction
that she doesn't like.
D: Jet claims to have killfiled me.
E: Jet now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (D) above.
F: Neither Jeem nor Jet are worthy of the time to compose a
response until their behavior improves.
G: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
H: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
misc.legal,talk.politics.misc,alt.politics.libertarian,talk.politics.libertarian,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,soc.singles
Subject: Re: AARON KULKIS...USENET SPAMMER, LIAR, AND THUG
Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2000 04:47:39 -0400
Loren Petrich wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Loren Petrich wrote:
>
> >> Thus, someone who mugs Mr. Kulkis is entitled to walk, on the
> >> ground that nobody is entitled to protection against crime.
> >Wrong. You have the right to petition the government for redress
> >of grievances...i.e. prosecution of your attacker.
>
> In effect, entitlement to protection against crime.
YOU are such a fucking moron.
How are you "protected against crime" when by it's very definition,
you cannot "petition for redress of grievances" until AFTER the
fucking crime has been committed?
Loren..here...let me make it simple for you...
Go get a shotgun and some shells. Go home, and take off your
shoes. snap the shotgun open and put a shell in the breech
(that's the back-end of the barrel). Then, close the gun
up, switch it from safe to fire....put the muzzle in your
mouth, and push the trigger with your toe.
Believe me, MORON, your IQ will go up by 50 points.
>
> >> >Absolutely not. EVERYBODY is free to choose a path of self
> >> >sufficiency. Those who choose to lollygag around at my expense
> >> >are worthy of contempt, not compassion.
> >> However, outside circumstances can interfere.
> >purchasing alcohol and/or other drugs.
>
> Is Mr. Kulkis describing himself here?
> He does not seem to have heard of unemployment.
If people would be allowed to keep their money, and invest it as
they so choose, they wouldn't need any "unemployment benefits".
>
> >> >Name one Kennedy or Rockefeller who isn't a parasite.
> >> They are no more parasitic than any other inheritor of old money.
> >So, you admit that they are, in fact, parasites.
> >Nomorequestionsyerhoner.
>
> And this from someone who wails about inheritance taxes and
> "class envy".
I'm saying that THESE TWO PARTICULAR FAMILIES "rich people" are
parasites. This is fundamentally different from saying that all
rich people are parasites.
As usual, fucking brain-dead Loren Petrich can't tell the difference.
Remember Loren...make sure to move the catch from "safe" to "fire"...
and make sure you can taste the muzzle with your tonge.
>
> --
> Loren Petrich Happiness is a fast Macintosh
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] And a fast train
> My home page: http://www.petrich.com/home.html
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
I: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
J: Loren's Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: "Jeem" Dutton is a fool of the pathological liar sort.
C: Jet plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a method of
sidetracking discussions which are headed in a direction
that she doesn't like.
D: Jet claims to have killfiled me.
E: Jet now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (D) above.
F: Neither Jeem nor Jet are worthy of the time to compose a
response until their behavior improves.
G: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
H: Knackos...you're a retard.
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