Linux-Advocacy Digest #490, Volume #31 Mon, 15 Jan 01 18:13:04 EST
Contents:
Re: Will politics kill the case or will justice prevail? ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: KDE Hell ("Kyle Jacobs")
Re: The Server Saga ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Linux is crude and inconsistant ("Kyle Jacobs")
Re: Why Linux won't get far in Luxembourg's comapanies. ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: KDE Hell ("Kyle Jacobs")
Re: Why Linux won't get far in Luxembourg's comapanies. ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: KDE Hell ("Kyle Jacobs")
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Will politics kill the case or will justice prevail?
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 17:58:36 -0500
The Ghost In The Machine wrote:
>
> In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Erik Funkenbusch
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote
> on Mon, 8 Jan 2001 16:06:32 -0600
> <7Nq66.441$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >"Pete Goodwin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> >news:a3o66.161894$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >> The Register: MS anti-trust appeal looms
> >>
> >> http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/15891.html
> >>
> >> This case appears to just run and run.
> >>
> >> Why is it taking so long for the US Courts to come to any conclusion in
> >> this case? I mean, Microsoft have been found guilty of being a monopoly,
> >> yet they're happily continuing as before. So far there's no teeth to this
> >> case.
> >
> >Appeals take time. The Appeals court has to sift through mounds and mounds
> >of evidence before even the first words are uttered in argument.
>
> And by that time .NET will be firmly and nearly irrevocably entrenched
> in the corporate substructure, and Microsoft will win again, not
> unlike OLE versus OpenDoc, and COM versus CORBA.
>
> Sigh. At least Java's still out there, roundly trouncing ActiveX. :-)
> Maybe it'll trounce .NET, too -- one can hope.
>
> (Side point: a monopoly is not necessarily a bad thing; it's the
> abuse of monopoly power that causes problems. I don't remember
> whether the courts have determined Microsoft has, or not -- it's pretty
> clear that Microsoft's been a bit shady, though, in some of its,
> ahem, agreements -- if one can call an agreement something that is
> functionally more like a "do this or else" sort of thing.)
The courts have ruled...REPEATEDLY, that Microsoft is an ABUSIVE monopoly.
Hope that helps.
>
> --
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- insert random misquote here
> EAC code #191 3d:06h:11m actually running Linux.
> Are you still here?
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: "Kyle Jacobs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux.sux
Subject: Re: KDE Hell
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 22:56:24 GMT
You Linsux zealots are going to hammer this one till someone literally kills
themselves, aren't you.
Yea, some dork got a cameo in some movie that'll be on Video cassette before
you can say "The New York times said..."
Sort of like Linux.
"Roberto Alsina" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:93vdqp$pcd$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Said Donovan Rebbechi in comp.os.linux.advocacy on 12 Jan 2001 15:40:08
> > >On Fri, 12 Jan 2001 13:18:32 GMT, T. Max Devlin wrote:
> > >>Said [EMAIL PROTECTED] in comp.os.linux.advocacy on Tue, 09 Jan
2001
> > >
> > >>You haven't a clue of the subject as a whole. Then again, neither
does
> > >>Roberto; he trumpets KDE because he's a big fan who stands to profit
> > >>from the deal.
> > >
> > >No one is paying Roberto to write KDE. You're putting the cart before
> > >the horse here -- he works on KDE because he likes it, not the other
> > >way around. (It's not as if he couldn't have worked on GNOME instead)
> >
> > I've got mixed feelings about that, honestly. ;-/
> >
> > >> I'm not sure why Donovan's concerned that we not confuse
> > >>kwm with KDE.
> > >
> > >Well, because they're different. Is that not a good enough reason ?
> >
> > Yes, it is. Sorry for catching you in my blatant trolling. I *really*
> > would like to hear a lot more about GNOME.
>
> You know, there is a linux desktop guy doing a cameo in one of the most
> recent Hollywood big budget movies. Hint, it ain't Matthias Ettrich!
> > >I think an important point here that a lot of people don't get is that
> > >one can benefit from KDE without having to run kwin (formerly kwm)
> >
> > Yes, but can one benefit from KDE applications without running KDE?
>
> Sure.
>
> > How much of the silent gap between KDE and GNOME (I must presume that
the
> > noise I hear more or less reflects development [I'm not limiting this to
> > newsgroup chatter]) is or is destined to become a function gap?
>
> How can anyone know if the noise you hear refelcts anything?
>
> [snip]
>
> > >I think you'll find some of the KDE applications pretty convincing.
> >
> > That's what I'm afraid of; KDE applications will be 'pretty convincing',
> > and mostly in comparison to a general malaise from everywhere else.
> > Leaving me in scarcely better a position to benefit from competitive
> > development of middleware than with Microsoft.
>
> So, you don't just want apps to do your job, you want two competing
> ones for each task, so you can hesitate. And we are supposed to
> provide?
>
> Excuse me if I find the necessity a bit less than urgent.
>
> --
> Roberto Alsina
>
>
> Sent via Deja.com
> http://www.deja.com/
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: The Server Saga
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 18:00:08 -0500
Pete Goodwin wrote:
>
> I have two PC's. One is a 400MHz P-II with 128 MBytes of RAM, and is dual
> bootable between Windows 98 SE and Linux Mandrake 7.2
>
> The second PC is a 166MHz P-I with 32 MByte of RAM. I wanted this one to be
> a file server. It originally had 2x2GBytes of IDE, plus 3GBytes of SCSI
> disk space. 7 GBytes on a file server is a bit low, so I ordered a 30GByte
> drive.
>
> I had to also order a new EIDE controller (as the PC only has IDE), and
> ordered a CDRW as well, as the backup device. Why a CD writer? Why not a
> tape drive? Well, tapes can only be read on the one machine; CDROMs can be
> read anywhere since they are now so popular. CDROMs are random access
> whilst tapes are serial. Tapes can have much larger capacity, and can be
> reused, whilst CDR can't be (although CDRW can).
>
> This is for home backups, so I don't need the tape drive. CDROMs are easier
> to use, and they're cheap and permanent.
>
> Did I check any of these things would be supported by Linux? No, I didn't.
> As it turned out, they all work fine with Linux...
>
> Now, onto the new setup.
>
> I put the new drive onto the new ATA100 bus along with the CDRW drive.
> Unfortunately there are no MSDOS drivers for the CDRW in this
> configuration. Linux can boot and read this setup, so I tried to use it,
> through several installations:
>
> First Installation
> ------------------
>
> TCP/IP was broken. Everything was correct but I could not ping my other
> machine, and likewise from the other machine. I could write a CDR OK.
>
> Second Installation
> -------------------
>
> TCP/IP was working, however, Linuxconf could not configure my system for
> me, so I was unable to get TELNETD, NFSD or SMBD working. I could run SMB
> directly with /etc/rc.d/init.d/smb start but not at boot up. TELNETD
> appeared not be installed.
>
> Third Installation
> ------------------
>
> I deliberately installed KDE/GNOME so I could run linuxconf on X. TCP/IP
> was working but a previously working script for Samba is now broken. NFS
> still dead and no TELNET - despite the fact I made sure it was ticked when
> I installed everything.
>
> Fourth Installation
> -------------------
>
> I read all the documentation on the Promise ULTRA100 controller and
> realised it did not support the generic ATAPI CDROM driver for MSDOS. So, I
> have a catch-22 for Windows. I can run a CDROM with Windows, but not with
> MSDOS. So, I can't install Windows.
>
> I put my old CDROM back in alongside the new drive and that gave me a CDROM
> with MSDOS. Bizarre. Linux could see both new drives (named them /dev/hde
> and /dev/hdg). Promise don't supply a driver for MSDOS that gets access for
> a CDROM.
>
> Once Windows boots up, it starts with the C: in MSDOS compatability mode. I
> installed the Promise drivers and the drive went to 32 bit mode, and the
> CDRW appeared. Hmmm... Linux installed these without blinking.
>
> Writing a CD worked fine with Windows Millenium, no suprise there.
>
> The only snag with this setup is the lack of remote access to the PC. I
> have to access the desktop to do anything. Remote file access is possible,
> but I can reboot or run the CD burner remotely. I can live with that for
> now.
>
> Conclusions
> -----------
>
> Linux Mandrake is a very nice package for someone who doesn't want to get
> into the bowels of UNIX style configuration... but falls apart if you want
> to do something other than install everything. I don't really see the point
> in installing a GUI on a machine that'll be used as a file server. I'd
> rather log into it remotely, rather than locally - hence the interest in
> Linux. However, Linux Mandrake made it difficult to install consistantly,
> something I'd noticed before.
>
> Now, I can see the reactions of people already:
>
> (i) This is a typical Windows luser who couldn't find his ass in an ass
> kicking contest. He should stick to Windows.
>
> (ii) This guy is an idiot (a stronger version of this: "This guy is a
> shithead Wintroll").
>
> (iii) This guy has been so brainwashed by Microsoft that he can't do
> anything without a Wizard.
>
> (iv) This guy is making all this up. He's a marketing drone being paid by
> Microsoft to spread FUD about Linux, in an effort to prevent Microsoft from
> failing.
>
> (v) We don't care about any problems he's having. They're all fake anyway.
>
> (vi) This is a typical Windows moron who reinstalls when things don't work
> properly.
>
> What's my answer to any of these points?
>
> I'm none of the above. Of course, I don't expect some to agree with me.
> These are the Linux zealots, or bigots, who seem to take an agressive
> stance, disparaging anything good coming from Windows, and sure in the
> knowledge that anything Free Software is Good and is going to defeat the
> evil empire, Microsoft. To them I would say: good luck. With your attitude,
> Linux will remain where it is, and might even decline.
>
> Then there a few voices here who are prepared to listen to what I say, to
> hear me out, and they're the ones who seem able to appreciate what I have
> to say. They are very few, but they are here. These are the ones who will
> make Linux into the bigger and better system, and start to defeat Microsoft.
>
> Incidentally, I don't need to defeat Microsoft. I'm quite happy for them to
> exist. They would do well to stop the shennanigans they've been accused of,
> but what do I know?
>
Translation:
"I, Pete Goodwin, am a complete idiot."
> --
> Pete, running KDE2 on Linux Mandrake 7.2
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: "Kyle Jacobs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux.sux
Subject: Re: Linux is crude and inconsistant
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 22:58:34 GMT
God forbid business should stop on one of my workstations for *GASP* 3 SOLID
MINUTES.
Or I could forgo the rebooting, and replace the OS with something that no
only doesn't need to be rebooted, but will make it unusable for as long as
the computer is powered.
"Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Kyle Jacobs wrote:
> >
> > And only you would find fault in such a simplistic process.
> >
>
> Reboot = downtime
>
> Downtime = unavailable system, NOT suitable for business work.
>
> Is ANY of this getting through to you, shithead
>
>
>
> > "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > ono wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Did you know that windows2000 comes with iis5. It's not installed
by
> > > > > default, but you
> > > > > have it running with 2 mouse-clicks (and NO REBOOT). You should
try
> > that
> > > > > sometime.
> > > > Ups.... sorry I didn't do my research propperly. It's more like 10
> > > > mouse-clicks (a wizard ;-)) and it does need a reboot.
> > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> > >
> > > Only a LoseDOS retard thinks of this as any sort of accomplishment.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Aaron R. Kulkis
> > > Unix Systems Engineer
> > > DNRC Minister of all I survey
> > > ICQ # 3056642
> > >
> > >
> > > H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
> > > premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
> > > you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
> > > you are lazy, stupid people"
> > >
> > > I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
> > > challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
> > > between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
> > > Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
> > >
> > > J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
> > > The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
> > > also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
> > >
> > > A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
> > >
> > > B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
> > > method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
> > > direction that she doesn't like.
> > >
> > > C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
> > >
> > > D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
> > > ...despite (C) above.
> > >
> > > E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
> > > her behavior improves.
> > >
> > > F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues
against
> > > adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
> > >
> > > G: Knackos...you're a retard.
>
>
> --
> Aaron R. Kulkis
> Unix Systems Engineer
> DNRC Minister of all I survey
> ICQ # 3056642
>
>
> H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
> premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
> you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
> you are lazy, stupid people"
>
> I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
> challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
> between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
> Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
>
> J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
> The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
> also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
>
> A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
>
> B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
> method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
> direction that she doesn't like.
>
> C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
>
> D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
> ...despite (C) above.
>
> E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
> her behavior improves.
>
> F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
> adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
>
> G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Why Linux won't get far in Luxembourg's comapanies.
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 18:02:26 -0500
Bartek Kostrzewa wrote:
>
> I'm a fellow Linux user, so this is not something against Linux, rather
> against our tax system here in Luxembourg.
>
> Why does an economically nice solution like a stock-hardware, Linux based
> Server (in this case for Fileserver use) lose against a Win2k Server +
> Compaq hardware?
>
> My friend's father has a small company, he asked me to give him a proposal
> for a file server (serving 8 computers with 500MB/day/PC), so I built a
> server for 1500$ with SCSI, AMD Duron 750, 256 MB of RAM and a 100 Mbit NIC,
> of course, I told him I'd install Linux and set up SAMBA for file serving
> (the company is 100% M$ based). When he heard the price he said: "What?
> That's far too cheap! I need to spend at least 7500$ on it, so I can reduce
> my tax charges at the end of the year!" Now he bought a Win2k Server based
> Compaq Proline server powered by an 933Mhz PIII, 256MB of RDRAM and 60GB
> RAID-10 (4 30GB 10K rpm SCSI harddrives in RAID mode, stripped and imaged
> together).... and that for 8 computer low-profile file-sharing.
>
> Even with the maximum service option possible (RedHat) the Linux-based
> soultion wouldn't have cost enough...
>
> As you see, Luxembourg's taxing logic is pretty hard to understand, you have
> to invest tons of money into your businness, so the state can't take "extra"
> taxes at the end of the year...
The goal is NOT to reduce your taxes...the goal is to have as much
money as possible at the end of the year.
Spending 1,000 Francs to lower your taxes by 500 is just plain fucking stupid.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: "Kyle Jacobs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux.sux
Subject: Re: KDE Hell
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 22:59:43 GMT
What part of "I left engineering a LONG time ago" don't you understand?
The "I Left" part?
Or the rest?
"Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Kyle Jacobs wrote:
> >
> > "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >
> > > AutoCAD is 2nd-rate software, acceptable only by people who are
> > > satisfied with 2nd-rate platforms (M$) that it runs on.
> >
> > I wouldn't tell AutoDesk software this. Last I checked they hold the
> > highest quality for professional CAD software on the market. But I left
> > engineering a long time ago.
> >
> > > AutoCAD is a 2-Dimensional CAD system. It's ok for designing cabinets
> > > and houses, but completely UN-suitable for designing anything with
moving
> > parts.
> > > Especially oddly shaped parts like crank shafts.
> >
> > Suitability is not the point of this post, it was the fact that
AutoDesk's
> > AutoCAD software had become synonymous with engineering in general.
>
> No, it is not.
>
> AutoCAD is a 2-D package, suitable only for designing trivial things like
cabinets.
>
> Walk into ANY automotive or aerospace supplier and mention AutoCAD....
> Better put in your ear plugs so that the roar of laughter doesn't deafen
you.
>
>
>
> >
> > > Corollary: AutoCAD is good as a cheap LEARNING tool.
> >
> > Ok...
> >
> > > I have YEARS of experience supporting such environments.
> > > You don't.
> >
> > Oh darn. You got me. I don't work with mechanical engineers.
>
> That's because you're still in junior high school.
>
>
>
> --
> Aaron R. Kulkis
> Unix Systems Engineer
> DNRC Minister of all I survey
> ICQ # 3056642
>
>
> H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
> premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
> you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
> you are lazy, stupid people"
>
> I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
> challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
> between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
> Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
>
> J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
> The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
> also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
>
> A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
>
> B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
> method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
> direction that she doesn't like.
>
> C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
>
> D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
> ...despite (C) above.
>
> E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
> her behavior improves.
>
> F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
> adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
>
> G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Why Linux won't get far in Luxembourg's comapanies.
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 18:03:24 -0500
Bartek Kostrzewa wrote:
>
> [deltia]
> >
> > Why not just squander the extra money on frivolous hardware.
> >
> > You could have added a rather nice RAID array to that configuration
> > to bring the price up if that was really the problem.
>
> But what for?! They don't need that kind of machine! That's the whole point
> I wanted to make, you have to buy too much, so you don't have to put so much
> money into the state's pockets, and I find this tax system ridiculous, the
> more money you have to invest, the less taxes you pay... rich people get
> richer, and poor people have to pay (relatively) very high amounts in taxes.
Then vote new people into the legislature.
>
> >
> >
> > >As you see, Luxembourg's taxing logic is pretty hard to understand, you
> have
> > >to invest tons of money into your businness, so the state can't take
> "extra"
> > >taxes at the end of the year...
> >
> > So? Just spend it in hardware.
>
> just like I said... what the heck for?
>
You can't see the advantage of RAID?
> >
> > --
> >
> > Finding an alternative should not be like seeking out the holy grail.
> >
> > That is the whole damn point of capitalism.
> > |||
> > / | \
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: "Kyle Jacobs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux.sux
Subject: Re: KDE Hell
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 23:00:50 GMT
"Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Kyle Jacobs wrote:
> >
> > Of course, I should point out that Microsoft's EULA agreement is totally
> > outside the bounds of the rights provided them by USC Title 18...
> >
> > Therefore, making the EULA unenforceable notwithstanding it's own
> > provisions.
> >
> > Hence, Microsoft has no control over what you do with their software, so
> > long as your actions are within the confines of the companies exclusive
> > rights toward the intellectual property that IS Microsoft Office.
>
> And yet, Microsoft's lawyers WROTE this stuff into the EULA.
>
> Why would a lawyer write illegal provisions into a contract unless
> it's for the purpose of intimidating those who have not read Title 18,
USC?
Say it with me.
"RETAINER"
That, and intimidation in itself is not illegal.
But mostly RETAINER.
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