Linux-Advocacy Digest #311, Volume #33            Tue, 3 Apr 01 07:13:03 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Darwinian Evolution and open software ("Beth")
  Re: Communism ("Beth")
  Re: Communism ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: Baseball ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: Communism ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: OT: Treason (was Re: Communism) ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: OT: Treason (was Re: Communism) ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: Communism ("billh")
  Re: More Microsoft security concerns: Wall Street Journal ("Aaron R. Kulkis")

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Reply-To: "Beth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "Beth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Darwinian Evolution and open software
Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 10:34:41 +0100

No such thing as "random"...there's only chaos...subjectively, you can call
something random, implying that, to you, it's random but it actually isn't
in reality...

Check out my other post here; It is common to try to specialise evolution
into just biological arenas BUT evolution is a far more wide-reaching and
subtler phenomenon...yes, _biological_ evolution does come about due to
"random" mutation (chaotic, actually, but let's not quibble over that :) BUT
_evolution_ itself does not care a tuppenny damn what causes the "mutation"
or what entity is being mutated...

Evolution is an interesting subject because of this...it is not some
tangible entity...there is no place you can point to in an organism and say:
"That's evolution by there"...heck, it's even stretching the definitions
(some might argue incorrectly :) to call it a "process"...it is an example
of a totally intangible entity...you cannot have evolution in isolation; It
is the interaction between entities and it does not actually "exist" in
either entity...it lives in the gaps between things...it lives in the
"ether" :)

Any system with interdependent "subsystems" will experience evolution...all
you need is some form of selection and that's all...this might be brought
about by a shared resource and competition...it might be brought about by an
designer making an _intelligent_ design decision...put it this way, if you
include those design/marketing decisions as part of the software (for
surely, it is :) then one could easily argue that there are "random"
mutations...market pressures are a "random" environmental influence...

For instance, M$ often try to stamp out their competition and give away
freebie software in order to secure data in their proprietry
format...altruism now, selfishness later...basically, responding to the
market whilst maintaining personal interests...if there was no competition
at all then M$ would behave in a totally different manner...thus, market
pressure HAS caused a "random" mutation...for certain, the money market is a
perfect example of a chaotic system :)

Intelligence does NOT avoid evolution, it can, at best, merely guide
it...yes, it is tempting to get all anthropocentric and assume intelligence
is above these things...that it is some sort of "magic" that nature can't
touch...unfortunately, intelligence is just yet another environmental
influence...it is a catalyst for mutation that will correspond to new
environmental pressures...it, in fact, just speeds up evolution, it doesn't
avoid it at all...

It is NOT the same as comparing it to a lottery or dice roll because such
systems are designed to give equal weighting to all eventualities...they are
designed to be "random"...BUT software is built to suit its environment, the
influences of human need and, therefore, does qualify as an evolutionary
process...

I understand your argument but I think you've placed the wrong emphasis...it
is NOT a fair comparison, you're right...and, yes, it is _intelligence_ that
makes the difference...BUT it is NOT correct to say that due to intelligence
being present that evolution will run away or whatever you're implying...it
is still there and this process still undergoes evolution...what _should_ be
stressed is that intelligence has entered into the bargain...intelligence
allows for self-analysis and immediate appraisal of new forms...this speeds
things up immeasurably BUT that can potentially be a severe drawback...it
breeds short-termism...

Intelligence is a great gift...arguably, the greatest gift we have...BUT it
does not grant us godhood...we cannot rise above the fundamentals of
nature...evolution still effects us and everything we do...it's immediacy
can be detrimental, also, where a short-term need is placed ahead of a
long-term need...

You call for this discussion to be dismissed on the grounds of intelligence
being present...I call for it to be greatly extended because of it...it is
evolution BUT it's not the usual biological sort...it has extra and
different influences that effect its evolution...there's a myriad more
possibilities here, which have great ramifications...

Beth :)




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Reply-To: "Beth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "Beth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.destroy.microsoft,misc.survivalism,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,soc.singles
Subject: Re: Communism
Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 08:53:51 +0100

Aaron R. Kulkis wrote:
> Could be because that theiving Caucescou and equallly dispicable bitch
> of a wife were both stood up against the wall and cut down on live
> TV, would it?
>
> No, of course not.
>
> There is only one punishment which is proper for those who seek to
> enslave others...and that's it.

You advocate murder?

> > Of course, believe what you will personally but "I'm right, you're
wrong" is
> > pointless and destructive...since the dawn of time, man has tried to
> > brainwash his fellow man to believe like him...it not only never works,
it
> > stands absolutely NO chance of EVER working...
> >
> > Let's be constructive...listen to the "opposition", even if you think
they
> > are totally wrong...as I'm sure your experience (and the experience of
> > countless billions before you) shows, shouting loudly gets everyone
nowhere
> > fast...the second someone utters "you're wrong" then it turns into a
brawl
> > and nothing more...
>
> There is nothing more reprehensible than bargaining with people who are
> trying to enslave you.  Not unless the subject of the negotiations is
> what they will do, for the people, to be let off with life in prison
> as opposed to the execution they deserve.

Again, you advocate murder...

So much for being constructive, eh?

> > Please, you're all better than this...show it...and, guess what, making
an
> > argument by example actually has the power to change people's
> > opinions...shouting "you are a commie asshole" NEVER EVER works...after
all,
> > think about it for two seconds, if they are a "commie" then being called
a
> > "commie" is a great compliment NOT an insult...
>
> You are truly NUTS, Beth.  Have you EVER been to a communist country?

[ The oldest question that plagues man: "Is it me who's insane or have I
seen something no-one else has seen and it is everyone else that is
insane?" ]

> EVERYBODY wants to leave those places.
>
> Do you know why?

Yes; It's shit...but you are not reading what I'm saying...if a person
actually =believes= in communism (as opposed to being under its rule but not
believing in it), then you would find the term "commie" a compliment not an
insult...

Agreed; A lot of people in communist countries are not themselves communist
and, therefore, might not take kindly to such a label but there are those
that would take kindly to such a label...

But it works both ways (although, I'll grant you more want to be
captialistic than communist in this world, from what I've seen)...there are
many Americans and citizens of other captialistic countries who want to be
communist...

I find it strange that you decide to argue on the majority case AND also on
the minority case in the same breath...your advocacy of murder also suggests
to me that you are disillusioned and unsatisfied by the present regimes in
this world...that's not unusual...

But you do really think that making murder lawful is the cure to all the
ills of the world? What's the idea? We all kill each other off and,
therefore, there'll be no people left and, therefore, no political systems
to disagree with? Well, it would surely work in the extreme but do you
really advocate such action as wise?

> > You all argue with your blind predjuices showing and even if you could
prove
> > beyond a shadow of a doubt that you are right then NO-ONE would listen
> > anyway because you're bigoted and biased and spouting other people's
empty
> > propoganda...
>
> I am goddamned sick and tired of people who go around trampling on the
> Constitution rights and freedoms of the workers of this country and then
> have the gall to parade around like they're some sort of liberators.

"Trampling the constitutional rights and freedoms of the workers of this
country"?

First off, stop being so Americanocentric...I'm not part of your country...I
do not come under its constitution...I could also not care a bean about the
rights and freedoms of your workers...but I do...I care for all human
life...tall, short, black, white, even you...

Secondly, do you know how communistic "rights and freedoms of the workers"
sounds? You are coming across as a communist that doesn't subscribe to
taxes, is all...in fact, what is your standpoint - other than shouting down
everyone and advocating murder of people you don't agree with?

Really...I don't agree with your political opinions BUT you are a human
being, you have rights and opinions...so, in that regard, I am 100% on your
side...stop shouting and cursing and tell me about what you believe...I'm
sure there are many people who are unaccustomed to cursing and such displays
of rage but, personally, this has NO effect on me...if you truely want your
opinions to be known then state them rationally - and temper your rage for
just a while so that it doesn't distract from whatever standpoint you wish
to convey...I'll listen...I will probably not agree, from what you've said
so far, but I cannot know this to be the case if you don't stop shouting and
cursing in a fit of rage and actually make clear your viewpoint...

I assume you want others to know of your opinions because you think they are
right, yes? And you think that the more people that believe as you do will
surely help to bring about the situation as you see it, yes? You may not
like the current system but it is in power...so, if you want to change that
system, you must initially play somewhat by its rules to get yourself
noticed, right? Under that system, you must rationally state your opinion -
without rage or anger or insult - and you'll be listened to...

If, of course, you don't want to be listened to or that you don't want
others to understand your viewpoint then this would seem to betray that you
merely wish to feel enraged...it is a good feeling, I know...but NOTHING
will happen until you state your case fairly (that means you have to listen
to other people even if you don't want to hear it) and rationally (don't the
curse every sentence and start quoting example)...

The ball is in your court...do you want to see a better world or do you just
want to get yourself some "feel-good" from all that rage and anger? If you
want a better world, you must work for it, my friend...mouthing off will
just alienate you and your opinions...no-one likes to listen to a moaner who
does nothing themselves...

I believe in giving people a second chance...this is your second chance to
talk to me rationally...I will just leave this discussion if your response
is nothing but "small man" rage...hitting out at anything and everything,
like it'll kill your disillusionment at the world...trust me, it NEVER works
that way...you murder one dictator, another takes his place...

Also, out of interest, how do you justify that your advocacy of murder with
those you dislike and disagree with is different to that of the holocaust?
Surely, the Nazis were also just killing off the people they disliked and
disagreed with...what makes your cause any more worthy than theirs? In fact,
out of interest, do you agree with Nazi policies? Some people do...are you
one of them? They were fighting to take back their country too (by their own
rationale)...they were advocating murder of their "enemies"...they also
thought that they were right - even holy - in their cause...

What makes you any better - nay, different even - from the very people you
advocate as your enemies?

I await your response, as this is a question I've always wanted to be
answered...thanks again in advance for taking the time to respond...

Beth :)



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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,us.military.army,soc.singles
Subject: Re: Communism
Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2001 06:45:59 -0400

billh wrote:
> 
> "Aaron R. Kulkis"
> 
> > Were you a PFC at the time?
> 
> PFC!  Really big deal.  You're hilarious.  Stop before you make a COMPLETE
> ass of yourself.  LOL!!!

Yes, that is correct.

LTG Pagonis, at his quarters in the Dhahran area.
I was a PFC at the time.

> 
> .


-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642

K: Truth in advertising:
        Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
        Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
        Special Interest Sierra Club,
        Anarchist Members of the ACLU
        Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
        The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
        Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,


J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.


F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Baseball
Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2001 06:48:17 -0400

Matthew Gardiner wrote:
> 
> Cricket is not gay, NOW Gridiron, that is really gay, wtf is it with pads and shit? 
>and
> a 15'er after each tackle for christs.  I've seen more action from a Microsoft
> programmer than what happens on the field in a game of Gridiron.
> 

Close.  What makes it gay is all the butt-patting after each play.

GROWN MEN FOR CRYING OUT LOUD!!!!


> Matthew Gardiner
> 
> "Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
> 
> > Matthew Gardiner wrote:
> > >
> > > Anyway, back on topic, personally, I prefer Cricket, a gentlemen's sport you may
> > > say.   Baseball, well looks so uncivilised with people chewing tobacco, whilst
> > > scratching their nuts saying to themselves in a long drawl south accent
> > > hooooooooooooooowdeeeeeeeeeeeeee.
> >
> > That has nothing to do with the rules, only the fact that the climate of
> > the South (perpetual summer) leads to the majority of those who make it
> > to the pros being from the South.
> >
> > Cricket is gay.
> >
> > >
> > > Matthew Gardiner
> > >
> > > "Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
> > >
> > > > Giuliano Colla wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Chad Everett wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Sun, 01 Apr 2001 01:36:55 GMT, Chris Ahlstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
>wrote:
> > > > > > >GreyCloud wrote:
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Anonymous wrote:
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> > mike wrote:
> > > > > > >> > > Tomorrow I go see the Mariners play the Cardinals.  Folks are
> > > > > > >> > > expecting Mark McGwire to hit the ball completely out of the new
> > > > > > >> > > stadium and be the first player to do so.  My neighbor came over 
>this
> > > > > > >> > > morning with four tickets for the game, front row directly behind 
>home
> > > > > > >> > > plate.  His employer -- a microsoft billionaire -- gave him the
> > > > > > >> > > tickets.  This means that Windows is superior to Linux.
> > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > >> > > Where are the
> > > > > > >> > > Linux billionaires?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > And there, in a nut shell, is the Microsoft argument for superiority.  
>Thank
> > > > > > you very much for proving, without a doubt, that Windows advocates are
> > > > > > are, shall we say, *confused*.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > As a foreigner, one of the things I appreciate the most of the English
> > > > > language, is the elegance of the understatements.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > How does that work in Italian (I don't know Italian, but I had 3 1/2 years
> > > > of Spanish, so I can relate).
> > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Giuliano Colla
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Aaron R. Kulkis
> > > > Unix Systems Engineer
> >
> > --
> > Aaron R. Kulkis
> > Unix Systems Engineer

-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642

K: Truth in advertising:
        Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
        Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
        Special Interest Sierra Club,
        Anarchist Members of the ACLU
        Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
        The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
        Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,


J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.


F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

------------------------------

From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,us.military.army,soc.singles
Subject: Re: Communism
Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2001 06:49:28 -0400

billh wrote:
> 
> "Aaron R. Kulkis"
> 
> > You mean your lie about how the Germans, Japanese, North Koreans, Chinese,
> > Viet Cong, and North Vietnames supposedly *never* shooting at our medics
> who
> > were wearing Red Cross insignia on their helmets and armbands....
> >
> > Deny it all you want, you were part of the same "How dare this unknown
> person
> > intrude on our little coffee clique" feeding frenzy.
> 
> LOL!!!  Hell, the band ain't even playing yet you continue to dance.


Then take out your earplugs.

Worse than an ostrich with his head stuck in the ground, he is.



-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642

K: Truth in advertising:
        Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
        Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
        Special Interest Sierra Club,
        Anarchist Members of the ACLU
        Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
        The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
        Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,


J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.


F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

------------------------------

From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,us.military.army,soc.singles
Subject: Re: OT: Treason (was Re: Communism)
Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2001 06:49:49 -0400

billh wrote:
> 
> "Aaron R. Kulkis"
> 
> > I bounced *A* check, because a check that was written to me bounced.
> 
> Dishorable act no less.  Big enough to land you in court.

Years before I was in the army.

-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642

K: Truth in advertising:
        Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
        Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
        Special Interest Sierra Club,
        Anarchist Members of the ACLU
        Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
        The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
        Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,


J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.


F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

------------------------------

From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,us.military.army,soc.singles
Subject: Re: OT: Treason (was Re: Communism)
Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2001 06:51:04 -0400

billh wrote:
> 
> "Aaron R. Kulkis"
> 
> > I bounced *A* check, because a check that was written to me bounced.
> 
> Dishorable act no less.

Someone wrote ME a check that bounced....which fucked up my balance.

>  Big enough to land you in court.

Charges were dropped.

What does that tell you.



-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642

K: Truth in advertising:
        Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
        Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
        Special Interest Sierra Club,
        Anarchist Members of the ACLU
        Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
        The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
        Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,


J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.


F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

------------------------------

From: "billh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,us.military.army,soc.singles
Subject: Re: Communism
Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2001 10:52:07 GMT


"Aaron R. Kulkis"

> > PFC!  Really big deal.  You're hilarious.  Stop before you make a
COMPLETE
> > ass of yourself.  LOL!!!
>
> Yes, that is correct.

You're a dolt.



------------------------------

From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: More Microsoft security concerns: Wall Street Journal
Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2001 06:53:54 -0400

GreyCloud wrote:
> 
> Chad Everett wrote:
> >
> > On 2 Apr 2001 18:43:06 -0500, Jon Johanson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > >"Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > >news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > >> "Stephen S. Edwards II" wrote:
> > >> > Really now.  I would also ask how in the hell
> > >> > you've determined that Microsoft has merely
> > >> > implemented some 4.4BSD code in order to
> > >> > get Windows2000.  Do you have access to the
> > >> > WindowsNT v4.0 and v5.0 source trees?
> > >>
> > >> the "strings" command finds embedded strings in ANY file, including
> > >> compiled executables and dll files.
> > >>
> > >> "Copyright (C), Regents of the University of California" strings have
> > >> been found in Mafia$oft's DLL files.
> > >>
> > >> Hope that helps.
> > >
> > >I don't believe you. How about showing us one?
> > >
> >
> > Hey Everybody!  It's Jon!  Hi Jon!
> >
> > You asked, so here ya go:
> >
> > Here are some files from a Windows 2000 Professional system along with
> > the copyright strings that are contained in them:
> >
> > C:\WINNT\SYSTEM32\finger.exe
> > @(#) Copyright (c) 1980 The Regents of the University of California.
> > C:\WINNT\SYSTEM32\nslookup.exe
> > @(#) Copyright (c) 1985,1989 Regents of the University of California.
> > C:\WINNT\SYSTEM32\rcp.exe
> > @(#) Copyright (c) 1983 The Regents of the University of California.
> > C:\WINNT\SYSTEM32\rsh.exe
> > @(#) Copyright (c) 1983 The Regents of the University of California.
> > C:\WINNT\SYSTEM32\FTP.EXE
> > @(#) Copyright (c) 1983 The Regents of the University of California.
> 
> I wonder if MS pays royalty for this.

What part of MAFIAsoft do you not understand?
:-)

> 
> --
> V


-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642

K: Truth in advertising:
        Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
        Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
        Special Interest Sierra Club,
        Anarchist Members of the ACLU
        Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
        The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
        Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,


J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.


F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

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