Linux-Advocacy Digest #365, Volume #33 Wed, 4 Apr 01 21:13:04 EDT
Contents:
Re: Richard Stallman what a tosser, and lies about free software (T. Max Devlin)
Re: Baseball ("Matthew Gardiner")
Re: Baseball ("Matthew Gardiner")
do penguins like fish?
Re: Microsoft should be feared and despised (Peter =?ISO-8859-1?Q?K=F6hlmann?=)
Re: IA32, was an advocacy rant (Eric Smith)
Re: Communism, Communist propagandists in the US...still..to this day. ("Joseph T.
Adams")
Re: Microsoft should be feared and despised ("Matthew Gardiner")
Re: Microsoft should be feared and despised ("Matthew Gardiner")
Re: XP = eXPerimental ("Nik Simpson")
Re: Microsoft should be feared and despised ("Matthew Gardiner")
Re: Windows "speed" (".")
Re: Microsoft should be feared and despised (Roy Culley)
Re: Microsoft should be feared and despised ("Zed Mister")
Re: More Microsoft security concerns: Wall Street Journal (Michael Vester)
Re: Baseball (".")
Linux sets world record !!! ("Joseph Ogiba")
Re: Democratic Republics (Was: Communism, etc.) ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
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From: T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: gnu.misc.discuss,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,misc.int-property
Subject: Re: Richard Stallman what a tosser, and lies about free software
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2001 23:18:52 GMT
Said Jeffrey Siegal in comp.os.linux.advocacy on Tue, 03 Apr 2001
>"T. Max Devlin" wrote:
>> >Of course it is. In a legal sense, a computer is a tool, like a pot or
>> >a pan (or a photocopier).
>>
>> Tools can't 'read' things. If the computer is a tool, so's the
>> software, and you can't copyright a tool.
>
>Thank you, Max. You've finally posted something so thoughtless and
>idiotic that I've decided to stop reading your posts at all. I
>appreciate the saved time.
Bwah-ha-ha-ha. Is anybody else as confused about this, or is Jeffrey
just posturing?
--
T. Max Devlin
*** The best way to convince another is
to state your case moderately and
accurately. - Benjamin Franklin ***
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From: "Matthew Gardiner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Baseball
Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 11:22:08 +1200
I was simply pointing out that no country is perfect, however, over the last
2-3 days, I bet ya most people now regret voting in G W Bush. I am actually
surprised he got voted in. When he was quized about international policy,
he was as thick as two short planks, he didn't even know the leaders of some
of the US's allies! For example, in New Zealand, one of our faults is that
we are too pesimistic, hence the reason why our stock market has never
achieved anything greater than 2500points, and CEO's who don't perform end
up getting lynched at the AGM. An example of this would be Beauty Direct, a
dot-con company set up to sell cosmetics online. Had it been listed on the
NASDAQ, the price would have gone through the roof, however, it listed on
the NZSE, people hammered it, it now trading at 15 cents a share, and no
one wants to buy it because it is loosing money, which is one perk of being
a pesimistic country, you don't loose money :)
Matthew Gardiner
"T. Max Devlin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Said Matthew Gardiner in alt.destroy.microsoft on Wed, 4 Apr 2001
> 14:37:58 +1200;
> >That sounds pretty stupid. For the record, I am not from the UK, I'm
from
> >New Zealand.
>
> Gotcha again! ;-)
>
> >Also, that was the typical septic tank reply I was expecting. For a
country
> >that raises their youth to only know what happens in Septic Tank Land, I
am
> >surprised you don't have more problems than you do now. A president that
> >wants to screw the earth.
>
> That was the last president. Now we have one that wants to be the pope.
>
> >A ex-president who couldn't keep his dick in his
> >underwear, high school shootings left, right and centre, KKK - created in
a
> >country that promots "racial tolerance", Jahova Witnesses and Mormons -
only
> >country that accepts weird, screwed up cults, I swear, I have never met a
> >New Zealander or an Aussie who is a Johava witness, and if I do meet one
in
> >New Zealand, they are a septic tanks, still using imperial measurements,
> >which is quite surprising that you (Septic's), tried to rid yourself of
all
> >things associated with the UK, except you missed that minor detail, a
> >country whose population throws out 25% of the worlds pollution, cars
that
> >are so big and chew through petrol so fast, I swear a hot curry would
stay
> >in me longer.....need I go on further?
>
> I don't know. Was the point simply to show you are a bigot and hate
> Americans, or was there something more you were trying to say?
>
> --
> T. Max Devlin
> *** The best way to convince another is
> to state your case moderately and
> accurately. - Benjamin Franklin ***
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From: "Matthew Gardiner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Baseball
Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 11:28:29 +1200
Its rather disappointing that the US doesn't have a good International
cricket or rugby union team, for a country with 220 million, I'd expect
atleast one. After seeing Canada and the US play, geeze, talk about a
pitaful site.
Matthew Gardiner
"T. Max Devlin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Said Matthew Gardiner in alt.destroy.microsoft on Wed, 4 Apr 2001
> >Rugby is more than a sport, its a religion, LOL!
> >
> >New Zealanders love their sport. In fact, if you look at what happens
when
> >the all blacks win, the economy picks up, however, when they loose the
> >economy slows down, so maybe the US need a decent rugby, soccer and
cricket
> >team to help fix up the sagging economy.
>
> Go ahead. I want to see a team in the US called "the all blacks". :-D
>
> --
> T. Max Devlin
> *** The best way to convince another is
> to state your case moderately and
> accurately. - Benjamin Franklin ***
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Subject: do penguins like fish?
Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2001 23:31:10 GMT
So far I've seen three products with the word "fish" in them:
blowfish, twofish (both encryption systems) and sawfish (a window manager)
Is there some private joke I don't know about?
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From: Peter =?ISO-8859-1?Q?K=F6hlmann?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Microsoft should be feared and despised
Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 00:33:26 +0200
Matthew Gardiner wrote:
> Oh, so the Rep's were the only ones honest about their dealings? Here
> is a better idea, have these parties publicly funded according to their
> share of the votes (like how NZ do it), and not allows corps and
> influencial people
> to bribe, sorry, "donate" to parties. The system in New Zealand is that
> you come towards a election funding board, and demonstrated that you
> have a certain number of people supporting you, hence, Labour and
> National, who are the main two parties get more money for campaigning
> than say, Alliance or the Greens that only recieved around 15% and 7%
> respetively, of the votes at the last elections.
>
Quite similar system is used in germany.
It is still possible to donate to the parties. But each donation
exceeding about 10000$ must be disclosed who gave it and when.
Peter
--
Eagles may soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines
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From: Eric Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.arch
Subject: Re: IA32, was an advocacy rant
Date: 04 Apr 2001 16:46:03 -0700
Craig Kelley wrote:
> Too bad IA32 chips run faster than Alphas now. :)
Alexis Cousein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Too bad they're IA*32*, though, and can't address more than 4GB.
Only a per-process virtual memory limit. And it might be possible
to circumvent that. Remeber how on the PDP-11 big programs used separate
I&D space (64 Kbytes each)? Well, IIRC on the x86 (x>=3) you can have
multiple segments that are up to 4G each. So you could easily have
a 4G instruction segment and a 4G data segment, without requiring
nastiness in C code like near and far pointers.
Probably not enough of a win to be worthwhile, though. Personally, I have
yet to encounter an executable bigger than 1.5G.
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From: "Joseph T. Adams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Communism, Communist propagandists in the US...still..to this day.
Date: 4 Apr 2001 23:42:07 GMT
Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: "Joseph T. Adams" wrote:
:>
:> GreyCloud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
:> :> The "new liberalism" relies upon the ancient sin of theft.
:>
:> : Yes! Hillary Clinton is an excellent example of a thief. When the
:> : liberals left the WhiteHouse and quarters they were like low-class
:> : scum... took everything including the light bulbs and the kitchen
:> : sink! Bush Jr. had to go in there with rubber gloves and Clorox to
:> : start the cleansing process. :-))
:>
:> As much as I detest most of what is called "liberalism" today, the
:> Klintons are not liberals; they are basically lowlife Mafia-like
:> scumbags who used the misguided support of naive liberals in order to
:> achieve their own unlawful aims, and continue to do so to this day.
: Which is different from other high level liberals how, exactly?
Ideology.
The Klintons would have been even more dangerous if they'd actually
believed in what they were doing.
:> Informed liberals despise them as much for this as does any
:> conservative.
: Informed liberals despise the Klintons because they (the Klintons)
: were stupid enough to get CAUGHT....***REPEATEDLY***
For other reasons too.
Joe
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From: "Matthew Gardiner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Microsoft should be feared and despised
Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 11:48:24 +1200
Hence the reason I don't use it (along with the crap service), so now I use
the email service provided by mysun.sun.com, its reliable, fast and
Microsoft free.
Matthew Gardiner
"JS PL" <jspl@jsplom> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> "Alan Baker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Oh... ...my... ...god.
> >
> > How arrogant.
> >
> > Read it:
>
> Big deal. They're offering a free service. You have the choice of agreeing
> to the terms, or not. It's nice to see the anti-MS crowd still teeters on
> the edge of a major cry-in at the slightest urging from their peers.
>
>
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From: "Matthew Gardiner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Microsoft should be feared and despised
Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 11:46:18 +1200
True, true, NZ also has the same voting system as Germany, MMP, however, we
don't have an Upper House as it is pointless, considering all that use to
happen was that legislation was simply voted down because it was from the
opposition, hence, nothing ever got done.
Matthew Gardiner
"Peter Köhlmann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Matthew Gardiner wrote:
> > Oh, so the Rep's were the only ones honest about their dealings? Here
> > is a better idea, have these parties publicly funded according to their
> > share of the votes (like how NZ do it), and not allows corps and
> > influencial people
> > to bribe, sorry, "donate" to parties. The system in New Zealand is that
> > you come towards a election funding board, and demonstrated that you
> > have a certain number of people supporting you, hence, Labour and
> > National, who are the main two parties get more money for campaigning
> > than say, Alliance or the Greens that only recieved around 15% and 7%
> > respetively, of the votes at the last elections.
> >
> Quite similar system is used in germany.
> It is still possible to donate to the parties. But each donation
> exceeding about 10000$ must be disclosed who gave it and when.
>
> Peter
>
> --
> Eagles may soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines
>
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Reply-To: "Nik Simpson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "Nik Simpson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,misc.invest.stocks
Subject: Re: XP = eXPerimental
Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 19:47:45 -0400
"J.T. Wenting" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> "2 + 2" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:9ad0qd$o6q$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > XP = eXPerimental
> >
> thought it meant ExPert? Experimental systems are of course usually
handled
> by experts, which might be the origin of people thinking XP means
> experimental...
>
> > It integrates the NT kernal.
> >
> Nope, the Win2K kernel, which is a complete rewrite.
>
> > But it also integrates a part of .NET.
> >
> Yah, why else create a technology if you're not going to use it?
>
> > At least in the hardware abstraction layer, they are starting with a JIT
> > compiler, instead of a pure emulated VM.
> >
> Not JIT, of course. JIT is platform dependent in that it works only for
Java
> applications, where .NET will be language independent...
And even if such technology were included it would not be in the HAL, a
claim that it is in the HAL indicates either the person doesn't know what
they are talking about or is deliberately trolling, or both.
--
Nik Simpson
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From: "Matthew Gardiner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Microsoft should be feared and despised
Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 11:56:23 +1200
So, say if I was a programmer, and I was working from home. I was just
cruising through the source code of piece of software and I saw a MAJOR
error, so I think, well, I better email work to notify them of the problem.
So, I open up me hotmail inbox and email them a patch to correct the error.
Does that mean that the patch I just sent is the property of Microsoft?
that sound pretty strange. Its a bit like posting a letter, and getting
told that the Post Office owns it once you have posted it, regardless of who
it is intended for.
Matthew Gardiner
"JS PL" <jspl@jsplom> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> "Gregory L. Hansen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:9af6ne$e8m$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >
> > Hmm... I especially liked this part.
> >
> > "The foregoing grants shall include the right to exploit any proprietary
> > rights in such communication, including but not limited to rights under
> > copyright, trademark, service mark or patent laws under any relevant
> > jurisdiction. No compensation will be paid with respect to Microsoft's
use
> > of the materials contained within such communication."
>
> Good. Now when and if MS ever decides to sell Hotmail they won't have a
> bunch of Linvocates trying to sue them for their cut of the deal, since
> their free mailbox is part of the product getting sold.
>
>
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From: "." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft
Subject: Re: Windows "speed"
Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 11:58:08 +1200
> No...667 lives across the street.
>
> His neighbors have even numbers
Last I checked, a neighbour lived in your neighbourhood, not strictly next
door =)
670 - a little down the street from the Beast.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Roy Culley)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Microsoft should be feared and despised
Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 00:39:06 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"JS PL" <jspl@jsplom> writes:
> Sounds like a good idea to put the clause into the licence agreement.
> MS definitely has good legal advice, as this clause most likely eliminates a
> ton of frivolus lawsuits. Also, for those not in the know - licence
> agreements supercede copyright laws.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/6/18106.html
You were saying ...
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From: "Zed Mister" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Microsoft should be feared and despised
Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2001 00:10:32 GMT
Well this is weird. They just changed it. Maybe this thread had something
to do with it?
http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1005-200-5508903.html?tag=tp_pr
"Chad Everett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> ******************************************************
> By Chuck Mead on Monday April 02 2001 @ 11:55PM EDT
> http://www.moongroup.com/stories.php?story=01/04/02/0156291
>
> Microsoft should be feared and despised!
> ----------------------------------------
>
> After taking the time to read the Microsoft Passport Web Site Terms of Use
> and Notices I have had a belly full of them. The potential damage they can
> do with this license is staggering. I encourage everyone to take the time
to read it,
> particularly the section entitled "LICENSE TO MICROSOFT". If you've ever
> had any doubts about the nature of that company reading that section
should
> put them to rest for good and all!
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From: Michael Vester <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: More Microsoft security concerns: Wall Street Journal
Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2001 10:08:48 -0700
"Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
>
> Michael Vester wrote:
> >
> > "Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
> > >
> > > GreyCloud wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Chad Everett wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > On 2 Apr 2001 18:43:06 -0500, Jon Johanson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >"Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > > > >news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > > >> "Stephen S. Edwards II" wrote:
> > > > > >> > Really now. I would also ask how in the hell
> > > > > >> > you've determined that Microsoft has merely
> > > > > >> > implemented some 4.4BSD code in order to
> > > > > >> > get Windows2000. Do you have access to the
> > > > > >> > WindowsNT v4.0 and v5.0 source trees?
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> the "strings" command finds embedded strings in ANY file, including
> > > > > >> compiled executables and dll files.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> "Copyright (C), Regents of the University of California" strings have
> > > > > >> been found in Mafia$oft's DLL files.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Hope that helps.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >I don't believe you. How about showing us one?
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Hey Everybody! It's Jon! Hi Jon!
> > > > >
> > > > > You asked, so here ya go:
> > > > >
> > > > > Here are some files from a Windows 2000 Professional system along with
> > > > > the copyright strings that are contained in them:
> > > > >
> > > > > C:\WINNT\SYSTEM32\finger.exe
> > > > > @(#) Copyright (c) 1980 The Regents of the University of California.
> > > > > C:\WINNT\SYSTEM32\nslookup.exe
> > > > > @(#) Copyright (c) 1985,1989 Regents of the University of California.
> > > > > C:\WINNT\SYSTEM32\rcp.exe
> > > > > @(#) Copyright (c) 1983 The Regents of the University of California.
> > > > > C:\WINNT\SYSTEM32\rsh.exe
> > > > > @(#) Copyright (c) 1983 The Regents of the University of California.
> > > > > C:\WINNT\SYSTEM32\FTP.EXE
> > > > > @(#) Copyright (c) 1983 The Regents of the University of California.
> > > >
> > > > I wonder if MS pays royalty for this.
> > >
> > > What part of MAFIAsoft do you not understand?
> > > :-)
> > Microsoft, the repackagers of 21 year old software. My finger is a mere
> > 10 years old, 4th Berkeley Distribution, July 27, 1991. I don't know why
> > losedos even has a vintage collection of Unix utilities? Everyone knows
> > to replace them with share/free/whateverware. Obviously, not the
> > "innovative" part of losedos.
> >
> > Since we already know that open source is better than losedos code, Bill
> > will simply incorporate open source into losedos and lag a few months
> > behind open source projects. Then Bill will present "new products" based
> > on incorporated open source code. The Microsoft marketing machine (far
> > more talented than their development department) will market the hell out
> > of it. They will make billions.
> > There is very little we can do about it, Bill has demonstrated that he can
> > out lawyer the United States government.
>
> Maybe..but outside US borders, I expect to see a series of humiliating
> defeats for Mafia$oft.
>
> >
> > Seeing the losedos advocates proudly state official Microsoft doctrine
> > without any care to our future concerns me. Are they that stupid and
> > unaware of events that effect all of us? Bill is a Napoleon. He must
>
> Bad analogy.
>
> Napolean destroyed feudalism and brought the concept of civil rights
> to most of Europe (the reason Russia lags so far behind the rest of
> Europe in this regard is because the Russians defeated Napolean).
>
> In contrast, Bill is trying to build a digital dictatorship.
I stand corrected. Napolean was better for the world. Bill Gates motives
are purely selfish.
>
> > dominate all things digital. His business conduct using NDA's and
> > multi-tired pricing structures to exclude competitors proves how
> > determined he is. This is very bad. Bill could leave us entrenched in a
> > hardly usable IT infrastructure for decades. All the great dreams we had
> > about this technology will be gone. Bill will do the dreaming for us.
> > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > V
> > >
> > > --
> > > Aaron R. Kulkis
> > > Unix Systems Engineer
> > > DNRC Minister of all I survey
> > > ICQ # 3056642
> > >
> > <snip>
> >
> > Michael Vester
> > A credible Linux advocate
> >
> > "The avalanche has started, it is
> > too late for the pebbles to vote"
> > Kosh, Vorlon Ambassador to Babylon 5
>
> --
> Aaron R. Kulkis
> Unix Systems Engineer
> DNRC Minister of all I survey
> ICQ # 3056642
>
> K: Truth in advertising:
> Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
> Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
> Special Interest Sierra Club,
> Anarchist Members of the ACLU
> Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
> The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
> Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
>
> J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
> The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
> also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
>
> I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
> challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
> between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
> Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
>
> H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
> premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
> you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
> you are lazy, stupid people"
>
> G: Knackos...you're a retard.
>
> F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
> adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
>
> E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
> her behavior improves.
>
> D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
> ...despite (C) above.
>
> C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
>
> B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
> method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
> direction that she doesn't like.
>
> A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
--
Michael Vester
A credible Linux advocate
"The avalanche has started, it is
too late for the pebbles to vote"
Kosh, Vorlon Ambassador to Babylon 5
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From: "." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Baseball
Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 12:35:30 +1200
> Professional rugby is a different matter, but the majority of rugby is
still
> played at the amateur level (truely amateur, as distinct from something
like
> athletics where the top competitors live off sponsership money). That is
> really what makes it different from many other major sports.
Most sports have a huge amateur following. Perhaps not in NZ so much, but
to claim Rugby is different from other sports because a lot of people play
it at the amateur level seems a bit odd.
> This means that it makes sense to support your local rugby team, because
> they *are* a local team.
I have to admit, that makes no sense to me. Why is it sensible for me to
support a local team I couldn't give a rats buttcrack about? 'Because they
really are local'? Hahaha =)
> Being amateurs, rugby players are "real people". They have real lives
> outside the sport, and are a wide range of people. I have met rugby
players
> who have trouble working out which end of a spade to hold,
OHHHH yes.
> and others who are consultent doctors.
I'd think this was a bit more rare than the confused-spade variety, but I'm
perfectly willing to believe people of all intellectual levels enjoy some
form of sport. It's just that the game seems to me to not be particularly
suited to any kind of strategy, except perhaps 'sic these guys on those
guys, and pass the ball to the fast bastard'.
It can hardly be considered a battle of the minds. It is a competition, but
primarily a physical one.
> They play rugby for fun - it is not fun to get
> maimed by the opposition, so players don't do that. Sure, there are
> injuries and accidents, and the occasional angry fist, but there is
extremly
> little intentional injury. And after the match, they all clap each other
on
> the back, shake hands, and have a big bath together.
Hehehe, a big bath... so that's what you call it now ;)
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From: "Joseph Ogiba" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Linux sets world record !!!
Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2001 00:38:18 GMT
LNUX $320.00 to $1.59 !!! From "World Record IPO" to world record loss in
stock price (-$318.41).Can you imagine buying 10 shares for $3,200.00 and
watch it drop to $15.90 !!!
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
misc.survivalism,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,talk.politics.misc,alt.society.liberalism,talk.politics.guns
Subject: Re: Democratic Republics (Was: Communism, etc.)
Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2001 20:38:17 -0400
"Gunner ©" wrote:
>
> On Wed, 04 Apr 2001 04:02:11 GMT, d'geezer@d'geezer.net wrote:
>
> >On 3 Apr 2001 10:52:48 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chad Everett) wrote:
> >
> >>On 3 Apr 2001 05:35:51 GMT, Donovan Rebbechi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>>On Mon, 02 Apr 2001 21:19:11 -0400, Scott Erb wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>You are free to think so. These are readings being used by thousands of
> >>>>teachers across America every day, these are the readings that are
> >>>>informing the minds of American citizens and tomorrow's leaders (and
> >>>>today's leaders, most of these readings have been around awhile).
> >>>>You're simply out of the loop.
> >>>
> >>>I don't suppose you've heard, but according to Kulkis, these "teachers" are
> >>>part of a nationwide conspiracy on part of the NEA who are working with
> >>>the KGB. (sarcasm alert) And the above observation PROVES it !!!
> >>
> >>Not the mention the fact they they're trying to rob us of all our precious
> >>bodily fluids.
> >
> >And poison us with flouride, and kidnap us and transport us to a secret Galactic
> >laboratory in Genymede for obscene medical experiments. I'll tell you by
> >golly.............
> >
> >
> >d'geezer
> >
> I suspect..several here are looking forwards to the anal probe... while
> others..consider it business as usual.
>
Bend Over....Here It Comes AGAIN!
> gunner
>
> --
> "Confronting Liberals with the facts of reality is very much akin to
> clubbing baby seals. It gets boring after a while, but because Liberals are
> so stupid it is easy work." Steven M. Barry
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
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