Linux-Hardware Digest #244, Volume #10 Sat, 15 May 99 22:13:42 EDT
Contents:
Re: All the current OSes are idiotic (was Re: Is Windows for idiots?) (westprog)
OPTi /dev/dsp problem (Ignacio E Thayer)
Re: Another problem ("Travis Landry")
Compiling new 2.2.9 kernel error ("Gene Heskett")
Device busy for aimslab radio on linux 2.2 (Michael Bain)
Re: CD-AUDIO ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: ASUS-P2B-DS feels slow (Andrew Daviel)
Quad/Dual Motherboard? (Gavin McCord)
Warning: IOMEGA Zip on linux 2.2 is not stable ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: STB 128 and RedHat (Joshua Martin)
Hi-val sountastic sound cards (d Martin)
Re: UDMA33 hard drive runs at 6 megs/second - WTF? (Steve Ponsford)
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From: westprog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: All the current OSes are idiotic (was Re: Is Windows for idiots?)
Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 12:28:37 GMT
In article <7hek5k$pci$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Ahhh... isn't that the way that Linux is being put together?
>
> Except not by companies.
...
> :I agree that all OSes are somewhat idiotic. Almost everything is
built by one one
> :vendor sent to the customer as a giant piece of code.
> :
> :I would be nice if an OS could be broken into several major
> :components that
> :follow the specifications. Each component could then be developed by
> :a different
> :company. Finally, all the components could be stitched together to
> :form an OS.
> :This is the way hardware is built. Why not software too?
Here is what I would like to see happen: A small company designs an OS
using an object model. All the components of the system are objects with
fixed interfaces. The OS is given away free. Other companies are free to
replace any objects in the system as they wish, so long as they don't
change the interfaces. If they market their own version of the OS, the
will pay the original company a small licensing fee. They are allowed to
add interfaces to the objects, and to add new objects. A Linux type
culture of open source, free software would be encouraged, but not to
the exclusion of people who want to make money. A standards committee
would adjudicate as to which extensions to the system would become
standard. Making an extension standard would mean that its original
implementation would be given away freely with the system.
I can see a lot of ways in which this picture could go wrong, but if
done right, I think it could work.
--
J.
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From: Ignacio E Thayer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: OPTi /dev/dsp problem
Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 18:34:48 -0400
I have an opti based cheapo sound card and so far i have used isapnp and
mad16 modules to get it to a point where the card is initialized and i
can play sounds through /dev/audio (by catting .au sounds to it).
however, i cannot get sounds to play through /dev/dsp: they are being
played too slowly (ie, instead of a cat, it sounds liek a cow). you can
reproduce this sound with sox on /dev/audio by changing the bitrate of a
16khz wav to 8000 (sox -r8000). anyway, i've had this problem before,
and successfully got the card working, but it was more than a year ago
and now i cant remember what i did to fix it. if anyone has any ideas,
i'd appreciate hearing them.
thanks,
ignacio
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From: "Travis Landry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.linux,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x,linux.redhat,linux.redhat.install,linux.redhat.misc,linux.redhat.rpm,nl.comp.os.linux,nl.comp.os.linux.installat
Subject: Re: Another problem
Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 18:49:24 -0400
Not if you're using RH 6.0, Its gnorpm there
Tomer Brisker wrote in message ...
>The XFree RPM manager is called glint. To check if you have it installed,
>run "rpm -q glint" from a virtual console. If it is intalled, all you
>have to do is type "glint" on any xterm, or set it up to be in your
>menu/icons by reading the man pages for your window manager. If it is not
>installed, you can get the latest version from
>http://rufus.w3.org/linux/RPM/glint.html
>
>[This followup was posted to alt.linux and a copy was sent to the cited
>author.]
>
>In article <7gcp2q$3i6$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
>> Under xwindows the RPM manager was available. I don't know what happened
but
>> it is gone. Can someone tell me how to get it back under Xwindows that is
??
>>
>> Thanx
>>
>> John
>>
>>
>>
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Date: 15 May 99 20:25:31 -0500
From: "Gene Heskett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Compiling new 2.2.9 kernel error
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Soneone (Mark Hahn) said:
MH>>> get 2.2.9, and configure it to support your controller (VIA82C586).
Plz note that *only* in 'Make xconfig' are the options to use that shown
to the poor user. Make menuconfig doesn't give you the choice that I
could see.
What else do I need to get to keep pppd working? I understand the
version I have from the 5.2 install is killed by later kernels.
[...]
And now I've had a chance to play with it, and the compile is failing
because of what seems to be a totally off the wall mistake.
In ./arch/i386/lib/compress.c, lines 104-105 is a definition of a
funtion:
csum_partial_copy_fromuser( 2 ptrs, 2 ints ) ; a 27 char name!
and at line 200, this:
csum_partial_copy( same vars as above ) ; but name is only 18 chars...
Make, it appears, is treating them as if the names have been clipped,
outputting the error that 'csum_partial_copy' is defined in line 105,
and redefined in line 200, therefore making them identical according to
the error messages output to the shell window. Make exits with an error
2 from the apparent redefinition attempt.
While I've written some C code, I'm not a guru, so what now folks?
Cheers, Gene
--
Gene Heskett, CET, UHK |Amiga A2k Zeus040 50 megs fast/2 megs chip
Ch. Eng. @ WDTV-5 |A2091,GuruRom,1g Seagate,CDROM,Multiface III
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> or |Buddha + 4 gig WDC drive, 525 meg tape
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>|Stylus Pro, EnPrint, Picasso-II, 17" vga
RC5-Moo! 22kkeys/sec isn't much, but it all helps
--
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From: Michael Bain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Device busy for aimslab radio on linux 2.2
Date: 15 May 1999 16:12:30 -0700
Since upgrading my system to Linux 2.2, I haven't been able to get the
radio to work. It is your basic aimslab radio, and it worked fine
under RH 5.2.
Sound works fine for other things, a basic SB16. Try to load the radio
driver via: insmod radio-aimslab
and it replies with:
/lib/modules/2.2.9/misc/radio-aimslab.o: init_module: Device or resource busy
Maybe this information will help:
DMA:
1 Soundblaster8
4 cascade
5 SoundBlaster16
Interrupts:
0 timer
1 keyboard
2 cascade
3 serial
4 serial
5 soundblaster
8 rtc
11 ncr53c8xx
13 fpu
And I had to create a radio device, hope it is correct:
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 6 May 9 17:57 radio -> radio0
crw-rw-r-- 1 root root 81, 64 May 8 11:50 radio0
--
Michael Bain "When in Doubt, Put on New Tires." [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: CD-AUDIO
Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 22:39:19 GMT
I ran into the same problem with the SB PCI64
under Redhat 6.0. The mixer in gnome (gmix)
wouldn't solve the problem, but xmixer did. In my
setup xmixer shows up under the
"AnotherLevel/Utilities/Sound" menus. I had to
mute the CD to get sound. Hope this helps.
bill
In article <7gvjoi$bpe$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"David Bildström" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> killbill skrev i meddelandet <7gv18c$d21$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> >In article <7gut20$1ct$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> > "David Bildström" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> I have a SB PCI64 (es1370) and I'm using RedHat 6.0. My problem is
that I
> >> can't play audio-cd:s. It's working fine in Windoze. Does anyone
else
> have
> >> this problem?
> >
> >I am using an ensoniq card that is virtually identical. The mixer
settings
> >under Linux work a little funny, play with them some and see if you
can get
> >sound. That card has a _bunch_ of different analog channels (for
voice
> >modem, multiple cd-roms, mic, line in, etc), and both the windows and
the
> >linux drivers seem a little confused about what mutes what and which
> sliders
> >control the volume of which. I usually (as any self respecting
engineer
> >would) just keep slapping sliders and pressing buttons until I hear a
> noise.
> >
> >I forget which mixer I am using... I can dig it up if you keep having
> >problems. Both the Linux and the Windows (Creative driver w/ directx)
mixer
> >behave oddly, but with enough guessing both seem to work fine.
> >
> >In other words, try giving it a few "virtual whacks", and play with
every
> >virtual knob.
> >
> >Hope this advice is not too technical :)
> >
> >
> Ok, I'll give it a try... :)
>
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrew Daviel)
Crossposted-To: alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.asus
Subject: Re: ASUS-P2B-DS feels slow
Date: 13 May 1999 21:33:33 GMT
Kari Laine ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: operating system around :-) Is there tools to meter Linux disk
: performance or do I have to write my own. In the /proc under scsi
: Linux gives channel speed as 80M/sec but thats theoretical value I
: guess or otherwise Linux would beat the hell out of the competition.
hdparm -Tt does a quick disk test
Andrew Daviel
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From: Gavin McCord <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Quad/Dual Motherboard?
Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 23:24:16 GMT
Rather than buy a single expensive superfast PII on a single mainboard, I'd
like to go dual/quad motherboard with cheaper processors i.e. 266-300MHz
Any recommendations on boards to buy?
--
"I'm Keyser Soze. No, I'm Keyser Soze. I'm Keyser Soze and so's
my wife..."
-Monty Python plays The Usual Suspects
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Warning: IOMEGA Zip on linux 2.2 is not stable
Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 23:07:51 GMT
RH 6.0, upgraded to kernel 2.27:
I have now played quite a while with trying to use IOMEGA Zip drives. I
have come to the conclusion that the ATAPI version linux driver does not
work reliably. Note that the driver nicely recognizes the presence
of Zip drives during boot time, and assigns a device thereto. The
driver just makes mistakes reading and writing from zip disks.
* [DELL Inspiron drive] I can format a ZIP disk on another Win/NT
system. Then, when I mount it on a DELL Inspiron ZIP drive as vfat
filesystem (/dev/hdc4), trying to copy a file to the DOS file system
creates
hdc I/O error pc=2a k=4 asc=47 ascq=0.
IO Error dev 16:04 (hdc) sector 417
This can be repeated, e.g., with a new disk or after using the disk for
a while under win/98. It seems to happen especially if this is the
first file I am putting onto this filesystem. Note that the Inspiron
zip drive seems to work just fine when I use it after booting into the
Win/98 partition.
* [DELL Inspiron drive] Same machine. Format the zip disk. Run
e2fsck -b /dev/hdc1
on the new ext2 file system, checking for bad blocks. After about half
the disk is through, there are tons of such errors.
* [P-III system] This is probably an ATAPI 2 drive, because I just
bought this computer. This zip drive creates has all sorts of weird
error messages. It begins at bootup with a complaint that the drive
reports two different kinds of number of sectors (with a disk in the
drive). /sbin/fdisk reports all sorts of bad partitions on the zip disk
(has different logical and physical beginnings, etc.; it sits on
/dev/hdb). The disk cannot be mounted, either as vfat (or autoguessing)
on either /dev/hdb1 or /dev/hdb4. I can wipe them, and start with an
e2fs, but this cannot be read by the DELL linux zip drive.
I have tried all sorts of variations on BIOS recognition, but nothing
helps.
Let's not complain about the creators of the ZIP driver for linux;
reverse-engineering is tough and they are all doing us a favor and for
very little money. But for now, I think the conclusion has to be that
the driver is flaky and IOMEGA ATAPI zip drives are better to be
avoided.
I wish I could complain to IOMEGA. Nice drive, but my guess is that
they reinvent their own standards and compensate therefore in their
software. Makes our life a lot harder.
/ivo welch
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From: Joshua Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: STB 128 and RedHat
Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 17:58:17 -0700
I have this card and it has ran fine (detected and everything) from
install since 5.2 . You might look into a possible conflict of some
kind if switching to 6.0 still gives the same problems.
-Joshua Martin
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Terry wrote:
>
> Hi there, I started installing RedHat Linux 5.2 yesturday, and it went
> flawlessly, except (suprise suprise) XWindows. I got it working, but only
> with the VGA16 Server. I have an STB Velocity 128 with the Riva chipset,
> and it is apparently supported via the SVGA. However, when I use that, it
> says Device found, but it had problems. If the entire message would be of
> help I can recreate it I'm sure. I'm currently d/l 6.0 (almost done) in
> hopes of better support, but if anyone could offer some advice I'd
> appreciate it
>
> And yes, I AM a newbie at this!
>
> Thanks again,
>
> Terence
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Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 20:00:03 -0400
From: d Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Hi-val sountastic sound cards
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Hello: Does any one know if these sound cards are supported in linux? If so how would
I go about getting it to work. I have a new system that has a sountastic sound card
and before I installed linux I wanted to know if it was supported.
Multimedia Solutions for the Home and Office
ISA 16 Bit Soundcard
Features
ISA Plug-n-Play
Up to 44KHz Sample Rate
16 Bit Stereo Sound
3D Surround Sound
20 Voice FM Music
Synthesizer
Digital/Analog Mixer
Sound Blaster[tm], Adlib
MPU-401, Windows
Sound System Compatable
Thank you in advance.
--
Yesterday is but a dream, tomorrow is only a vision. But today, well lived,
makes every yesterday a dream of happiness, and every tomorrow a vision of hope.
-The Sanskrit
No great genius has ever existed without some touch of madness.
-Aristotle
David Martin
FAX (978) 418 2592
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<pre>Hello: Does any one know if these sound cards are supported in linux? If so
how would I go about getting it to work. I have a new system that has a
sountastic sound card and before I installed linux I wanted to know if it was
supported.</pre>
<pre>
Multimedia Solutions for the Home and Office
ISA 16 Bit Soundcard
Features
ISA Plug-n-Play
Up to 44KHz Sample
Rate
16 Bit Stereo Sound
3D Surround Sound
20 Voice FM Music
Synthesizer
Digital/Analog Mixer
Sound Blaster[tm], Adlib
MPU-401, Windows
Sound System
Compatable</pre>
<pre>Thank you in advance.</pre>
<pre></pre>
<pre>--
Yesterday is but a dream, tomorrow is only a vision. But today, well lived,
makes every yesterday a dream of happiness, and every tomorrow a vision of hope.
-The Sanskrit
No great genius has ever existed without some touch of madness.
-Aristotle
David Martin
FAX (978) 418 2592</pre>
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From: Steve Ponsford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.tyan,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: UDMA33 hard drive runs at 6 megs/second - WTF?
Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 09:54:02 -0700
Hi Gene,
Mmm, pull it out of your PC and give it a whirl on you miggy :) if you got
Linux installed
on it and the proper cables to support that drive to your interface. The newer
2.3.x kernels support Amigas native Gayle IDE controller and the
Buddha/Catweasel IDE interface. Of course your PIO settings may not even be
recognized but it may be interesting to see the speed difference between the
two systems.
Also try this with hdparm
hdparm -i /dev/<drive> and look at you MaxMultSect if it's supported by your
drive. Take
the number returned from MaxMultSect=?? and set the -m option to that number.
However,
if you have a WD Cavair series drive set -m to a lower number (try 4 or 8).
Read the man
pages on hdparm for more info on WD drives. I might also help if you have
32-bit transfer
mode on by setting -c option to on. Then do a 'hdparm -t -T /dev/<drive>'
before and
after you changed the settings to see if your performance as increased any.
Hope this helps.
Steve Ponsford | Team //\ | A3000-40P96/A500-30+/GVP8+GuruROM
fleg | \\//miga | K6III-450/MandrakeLinux&UAE
Gene Heskett wrote:
> Reply to: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> Gene Heskett sends Greetings to Philip Morris;
>
> [...]
>
> PM> Gene,
>
> PM> Go to WD's web site and look for the utility "WD ATA66". It does not
> PM> attempt to format your hard drive, it simply switches it to an ATA33
> PM> compliant drive.
>
> PM> The 1590 does not support ATA66 capable drives. VIA has a new chipset
> PM> out that does support ATA66, but it is not the chipset that is on the
> PM> 1590.
>
> I did that last nite, and ran it this morning, turning the ata66 mode
> off, then put everything in the bios back to auto. Still 5.98
> megs/second. The 'hdparm -d1 /dev/hda' option apparently is not
> supported with this kernel/chipset, so the use_dma flag cannot be turned
> on. But, setting the prefetch on with a -A1 gets it all the way up to
> 3.18 megs/sec! And an A0 setting doesn't get the speed back.
>
> Don't ask me whats going on, everytime I call hdparm the damned thing
> gets slower! I've had ns, v4.51, take as long as 5 minutes, with very
> little disk activity, to open its first screen!
>
> Tell ya what, this 28 mhz 040 equipt amiga can run that 400 mhz linux
> box to the ground, stand on its neck and administer the coupe de grace,
> and do it without even raising a sweat! So far, the only place its
> faster is at keycracking, 22kkeys for the miggy vs 670 for the linux box.
>
> Cheers, Gene
> --
> Gene Heskett, CET, UHK |Amiga A2k Zeus040 50 megs fast/2 megs chip
> Ch. Eng. @ WDTV-5 |A2091,GuruRom,1g Seagate,CDROM,Multiface III
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> or |Buddha + 4 gig WDC drive, 525 meg tape
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>|Stylus Pro, EnPrint, Picasso-II, 17" vga
> RC5-Moo! 22kkeys/sec isn't much, but it all helps
> --
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