Geoff IBM lumping project/custom development revenue with patent licensing revenue is misrepresentation of patent value by 2.5 orders of magnitude.
Buy the book on Amazon. d On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 3:06 PM, geoffrey mendelson < geoffreymendel...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Aug 13, 2009, at 2:49 PM, Danny Lieberman wrote: > >> >> They later wrote a full length 323 page book - which I got after reading >> the paper (which was a teaser I guess...) >> > > Ok, the GROKLAW article said they were in the process of writing. I'd love > to see that book. > > > The book deals with fundamental problems of patents - fuzzy, unpredictable >> boundaries, possession and scope of rights, patent flood (software/way of >> doing business patents are relatively new...) The empirical evidence is that >> patents don't behave like property. >> > > At least the evidence shown. Evidence is not proof. Evidence is always > limited by your filters. In this case what you know, what you read, and what > they told you. > > > They spend an entire chapter bringing empirical data regarding how much >> patents are worth to their owners -relating market value of public firms to >> their assets including their patent portfolio. >> > > That also depends upon how much you spend. You can file a patent for $100 > in the US, but if you want it to hold up at all you have to hire someone at > the level of Sandy Kolb, which will cost you around $100k if there is no > need for him to fight it. From experience, if you hire a cheap patent agent, > you get what you pay for (or don't). > > > For example - IBM began listing IP and licensing royalties in their >> annual financial reports beginning in 2000 - about $1.5billion +/- per year. >> The majority of the $1.5BN is value of IP sold off by IBM including IP held >> by divisions they sold off as well as custom-development revenue. The >> actual amount of revenue from their patent licensing program is far less - >> about $125M gross the cost of IBM's several hundred patent lawyers. >> >> The $1.,5BN figure is an urban legend. >> > > I disagree. What's the difference between selling off something you bought > (or created) in one lump sum, or in bits. You can make money on selling a > live cow or you can make money on selling hamburgers. Same as selling off a > company, or selling single user licenses. > > BTW, I remember when ALL IBM software was free. > > > > Geoff. > -- > geoffrey mendelson N3OWJ/4X1GM > Jerusalem Israel geoffreymendel...@gmail.com > > > > > > -- Danny Lieberman ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Protect your data: http://www.software.co.il Twitter: http://twitter.com/onlyjazz Skype: dannyl50 Warsaw:+48-79-609-5964 Israel: +972 8 9701485 Mobile: +972 - 54 447 1114
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