Hi Shimi,
You are suggesting that there is no recourse to DDOS attacks, that
Israelis are fair game for foreign attacks and it is no one's business
except for the victim.
The ISP does need to "suffer" in this case, in that the ISP has allowed an
act of war to be committed through his service. I see little difference
between this and the cab drivers who transport illegal workers from the
Palestinian territories to jobs in Israel. We require the drivers to take
some responsibility for whom they transport.
I am suggesting that ISP's be charged with some level responsibility for
investigating and reporting these attacks. That's in the national
interest. I suspect that in the cases of large institutions, even
non-governmental institutions such as banks, that there is in fact some
national response, but that this protection is not currently extended to
smaller players. If a rocket hit's your home you get some protection at
the national level. If a DDOS attack from a hostile government attacks
your business, it's not in the national interest to provide
some level of protection?
- yba
On Sat, 26 Jan 2013, shimi wrote:
Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2013 20:20:30 +0200
From: shimi <linux...@shimi.net>
To: Jonathan Ben Avraham <y...@tkos.co.il>
Cc: ILUG <linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il>
Subject: Re: [OT somewhat] DDOS attacks, where to report?
On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 7:55 PM, Jonathan Ben Avraham <y...@tkos.co.il> wrote:
Dear Linux-IL colleagues,
An associate of mine who runs a hosting service has been the victim of
persistent DDOS attack, apparently from botnets that are mainly located on
other countries.
His Israeli service providers have responded to these attacks by cutting
off his service.
Is there someone in ISOC-IL
Don't know (even if they would, what power do they have? besides being the .il
domain registration expensive monopoly....)
or the police who will take a complaint seriously?
They most probably won't. Not to mention that even if they would, you can't
police foreign countries. You need Interpol. Do you think that's gonna happen?
I suggested that he file a complaint with the police, then with the copy
of the complaint in-hand ask his attorney to call the service providers to
demand restoration of service.
Did he read his contract? Did he notice "if the customer becomes a detriment to the
network..." clause?
Does his ISP need to suffer because of his business? Bandwidth cost their
money. Denial of service can cause issues to other customers, and ISP might be
hurt financially via lawsuits from said customers. Will he compensate ISP for
that?
What needs to be the threshold? Does the ISP needs to continue giving him
service if the whole ISP gets down for 4 hours, like happened last Tuesday to
012?
-- Shimi
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