Dear Eugene, Many thanks for another bit o' fun. I'm pleased we won't be having pistols at dawn over a comma. :-)
All the best, Stewart. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eugene C. Braig IV" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Lute Net" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2004 2:59 PM Subject: Re: Vihuela vs guitar > At 05:16 PM 9/22/2004, Stewart McCoy wrote: > >Although it is true that an introductory passage may be separated > >from what follows by a comma, it would be incorrect to use a comma > >after "passage", as you suggest for a sentence in my last e-mail, > >since "Throughout that passage" is not an introductory passage, but > >an integral part of what follows. If I had written the words in a > >different order, for example, "There is a distinct absence of commas > >throughout that passage", you would, I think, be less inclined to > >precede "throughout that passage" with a comma, since those words > >would clearly belong to the main part of the sentence. It was > >necessary to order the words as I did, beginning my sentence with > >"Throughout that passage", because the following subordinate clause > >("which are used ...") refers back to "comma", not to "passage". In > >other words, I don't want another comma. :-) > > > However, "Throughout this passage" is a prepositional phrase that is > modifying the noun "commas" (which in turn is the object of a prepositional > phrase modifying "absence"). As such, its ordinary place would be > following "commas." In relocating it to the front (and I agree with your > decision to do so), it is functioning as an introductory phrase. As it is > a brief introductory phrase, I think most grammarians would agree that > comma use is optional. > > > > >You mention Strunk and White. There are many such authorities > >regarding the English language, and they almost invariably disagree > >with each other somewhere along the line. The English language > >remains wonderfully flexible, however much grammarians try to > >straight-jacket the way we speak and write. > > > I will concede that there are almost as many grammar authorities of the > English language as there are people who write in English, and many > published sources do disagree to varying degrees. I have at least six or > seven texts on my shelf that, in whole or part, address the written > elements of style; they range from very general (e.g., the previously cited > Strunk & White) to very specific (e.g., Pechenik. J.A. 1997. A short guide > to writing about biology, 3rd ed. Longman, New York.). Strunk & White > certainly is my favorite for its clarity and concision. Whatever the case, > I think you write very well, Stewart (certainly better than I do), so who > cares? > > But let's get back to the business of plucking, eh? (Note my atypical use > of a conjunction to open this sentence with dramatic effect.) > > E To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html