Many thanks for this Anthony.
   
  My main motive for asking was the increasing cost of gut (especially fret gut 
oddly enough) and Universale's prices seemed very competitive - hence if their 
quality was OK then I'd order from them rather than MP or Sofracob or Kurschner 
or others.  In your email I'm not wholly clear if the Venice strings which you 
mention as being v good are Aquila's or Universale's - grateful for 
clarification.
   
  Regarding numbers of guts in a string, you may also be aware of the view that 
the old trebles had a significantly higher tensile strength because they were 
made of a single well selected gut rather than two or three thinner guts 
twisted together which inevitably introduced an element of discontinuity within 
the string: I'm not aware that modern string makers have taken this challenge 
up yet.  
   
  regards,
   
  MH
   
  

Anthony Hind <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  Dear Martyn
I don't know whether they are similar to Aquila Venice which 
are a twine of two elements, and not a tress of three like Pistoys. 
This according to Mimmo Perfuffo results in a more flexible string; 
but I suppose flexibilty may not be everything.

I found the Venice very good, particularly on the 4th course, where 
Pistoys can't work.
According to MP it doesn't matter what material (ram, cow etc) that 
the gut comes from. He claims to have made blind tests to prove this.

On the other hand today we no longer find gut made from whole gut, 
but strips. This might make a difference, perhaps. A friend of my 
daughter has begun to keep a couple of "vintage" rare breed sheep, 
and I notice how small and wild they look, more like miniature goats 
(even the female has horns). I wonder whether sheep up to the 17th 
century would not have been much smaller than today. I don't know 
whether that means the intestines would have been smaller though. It 
is just a thought.

M.P. also tells me that he has now rediscovered much of the old 
technology in his ongoing research, and could produce some strings as 
strong as nylon; however, the process would be painstakingly long, 
and I suppose they would be very expensive.

I know that Dan Larson made a gimped string with tungsten that was 
exceptionally true, and well liked by the lucky few who could try it. 
This may not be historic, but I suppose it was cost that meant the 
string remained in prototype form.

I have the impression that if more lutists showed interest in gut 
strings, we would see some very interesting developments in this area.
Regards
Anthony

Le 24 août 07 à 17:10, Martyn Hodgson a écrit :

>
> Has anybody experience of strings by this specialist Italian 
> company offering 'Highest quality ram's and ox's gut strings for 
> Renaissance, Baroque and Classical performance'?
>
> On their website they only show price lists for violin and gamba 
> family instruments but offer 'Special ox's gut strings', High twist 
> ram gut strings' Venice catlines' amongs others so I suppose culd 
> provide suitable strings for lutes/guitars. Prices look good 
> (especially fret gut).
>
> MH
>
>
>
> x's twist', 'Venice Catlines' so I suppose
>
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