Hi Anthony,
I think you are mistaking me for the person who was breaking his gut
strings. I use New Nylgut most of the time. It works just fine with
nylon frets.
Bill
From: Anthony Hind <agno3ph...@yahoo.com>
To: William Samson <willsam...@yahoo.co.uk>
Cc: "lute@cs.dartmouth.edu" <lute@cs.dartmouth.edu>
Sent: Monday, 23 January 2012, 15:08
Subject: Re : [LUTE] Re: Tightening frets - was: Tempered fretting -
take your pick - OOPS!
If you are using gut strings the nylon frets could be the reason your
top string is fraying.
Anthony
De : William Samson <willsam...@yahoo.co.uk>
A : Martyn Hodgson <hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk>; Lute Dmth
<lute@cs.dartmouth.edu>
Envoye le : Lundi 23 janvier 2012 14h32
Objet : [LUTE] Re: Tightening frets - was: Tempered fretting - take
your pick - OOPS!
Indeed, Martyn. I normally use double frets myself, but am surprised
at how few people do. Gut miserliness maybe?
I also (horror of horrors) often use nylon for the frets (I'm a
different kind of miser) - I suspect these frets will outlive me!
The
only downside I've found with nylon frets is that the knot tends to
dig
grooves in the neck if it's not veneered with some very hard wood.
Bill
From: Martyn Hodgson <[1]hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk>
To: Lute Dmth <[2]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu>
Sent: Monday, 23 January 2012, 12:51
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Tightening frets - was: Tempered fretting - take
your pick - OOPS!
Dear Bill,
Double fret loops very rarely need tightening in such a fashion (ie
bunging in small wedges). I guess the double length allows a
greater
stretch extension (and thus greater leeway) to be achieved.
Also by tying in a higher place (ie closer to the nut) and then
pulling
down to the required position, as indeed Mace advises, the fret can
be
tied very tight indeed.
Double frets have other advantages too in terms of wearing etc:
you'll
find communications about this in the archives.
regards
Martyn
--- On Sun, 22/1/12, William Samson <[1][3]willsam...@yahoo.co.uk>
wrote:
From: William Samson <[2][4]willsam...@yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Tempered fretting - take your pick - OOPS!
To: "Anthony Hind" <[3][5]agno3ph...@yahoo.com>
Cc: "[4][6]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu" <[5][7]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu>
Date: Sunday, 22 January, 2012, 18:18
Nothing as sophisticated as tastini - just matchsticks wedged
under
the
frets (at the bass side of the neck) to tighten them. Don't we
all
do
it?
Bill
From: Anthony Hind <[1][6][8]agno3ph...@yahoo.com>
To: William Samson <[2][7][9]willsam...@yahoo.co.uk>
Cc: "[3][8][10]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu"
<[4][9][11]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu>
Sent: Sunday, 22 January 2012, 18:05
Subject: Re : [LUTE] Re: Tempered fretting - take your pick -
OOPS!
I presume you are meaning "tastini"?
see
[5][10][12]http://home.planet.nl/~ooije006/david/writings/meantone_f.ht
ml
but are they playing in different temperaments, as your
previous
mail
suggests?
Anthony
De : William Samson <[6][11][13]willsam...@yahoo.co.uk>
A : William Samson <[7][12][14]willsam...@yahoo.co.uk>; Ed
Durbrow
<[8][13][15]edurb...@sea.plala.or.jp>
Cc : "[9][14][16]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu"
<[10][15][17]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu>
Envoye le : Dimanche 22 janvier 2012 9h46
Objet : [LUTE] Re: Tempered fretting - take your pick - OOPS!
Apologies again - URL is very long so heres a short version:
[1][1][11][16][18]http://tinyurl.com/7fg8lvz
As well as the varied tempering - look out for the
matchsticks
wedged
under the frets of some of these viols. We lutenists are no
alone
in
having problems with our gut frets loosening.
Bill
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