I'll agree with you, Ed, on the durability. Tuning to pitch got sorted out with 
the corrected diameter. As for sound it's a question of whether you're selling 
your soul to the devil in a contract signed with black ink or blue. 

Sean


On Sep 4, 2014, at 10:22 AM, Edward Martin wrote:

In my experience, the nng trebles are problemmatic.  Firstly, I do not think 
the sound very good, and secondly, they snap and break, not anywhere as good 
sounding or durable as the old ones.  My suggestion is to use nylon trebles.  
Nylon sounds better and is durable.

Ed

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> On Sep 4, 2014, at 12:03 PM, Sean Smith <lutesm...@mac.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> Chris speaks truth. Take it up in stages. Leave it for a day at E or F before 
> going up to G. Swapping to a new ng or nng string is not something you do on 
> stage! 
> 
> Sean
> 
> 
> 
> On Sep 4, 2014, at 9:53 AM, Christopher Stetson wrote:
> 
> Dear Simon and Listers,
> I don't have nylgut on my lute, but have several vintage guitars strung
> with it, both old and new, and be advised that I believe the material
> is a bit different. A I've found I need to allow about a one week
> break-in time to stretch out. A I tune it until the pitch isn't
> changing in proportion to the amount of tensioning, let it sit for a
> couple of hours or when I think of it, whichever is longer A I keep
> repeating until it comes close to pitch, then have to keep touching it
> up for at least a month. A Then they tend to last quite well. A For
> this reason, I don't change the trebles often, and the sound quality
> seems to hold up or even improve over time, but of course that's
> dependent on my memory. A Hoping this helps.
> Chris.
> 
> On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 12:26 PM, <[1]simon.lamb...@stfc.ac.uk> wrote:
> 
>   Dear Lutelisters,
>   I am trying to replace the top course on a lute with a 0.4 mm "new
>   nylgut" string, and I am finding that these strings constantly break
>   at the nut before coming up to pitch.A  I have tried three strings
>   and they all have broken.
>   Previously the lute had an "old nylgut" string of the same gauge,
>   which lasted well.A  I also tried a gut string, which did not break,
>   though it soon started fraying so I had to remove it.A  So it seems
>   unlikely that there is a sharp edge on my nut.
>   I know this subject has come up before.A  Someone suggested boiling
>   the string in water for 20 seconds but that made no difference - it
>   broke just like the others.
>   Could I have a bad batch of strings?A  Does anyone else have
>   experience or advice?
>   Thanks,
>   A  A  Simon lambert
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