Am I wrong or in the first movement, sixth bar, second beat "piano",
they play on the downbeat instead of playing on the upbeat (as also did
J. Bream on an old recording)?
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Il 10/10/2016 17:44, Edward Martin ha scritto:
I have performed this concerto in the past, a few times. Firstly, I
observed his fingerings, and it is apparent that he is playing in C -
major. The composition is in D - major, so I think the ensemble
recorded it a step down from how it was actually composed.
Actually those fingerings are easier in C major than in D major. I
once performed it with an ensemble in D major, but used an alto lute in
"a", so it had the same relative tuning as he used.
On Mon, Oct 10, 2016 at 10:14 AM, Ron Andrico
[2]<[1]praelu...@hotmail.com> wrote:
The only bit of opinion in my previous message was that I thought
Luca
Pianca's performance was musical. The rest is supported by
factual
information.
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From: Matthew Daillie [3]<[2]dail...@club-internet.fr>
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2016 3:11 PM
To: Ron Andrico
Cc: fournierbru; [[4]3]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Subject: Re: [LUTE] Re: Vivaldi lute concerto
I'm not in the least bit surprised that our opinions and tastes
differ
Ron.
Matthew
> On Oct 10, 2016, at 16:51, Ron Andrico [5]<[4]praelu...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
>
> Hmm...Historically-informed must have taken on a different
meaning
> while I wasn't paying attention. I should think Luca Pianca
and
his
> Italian compatriots might have a bit more of a secure
connection
with
> Vivaldi's music than the American's you name. O'Dette
recorded
this
> music with a silly little chirpy mandolino playing with a
rather
stiff
> sounding band. McFarlane's interpretation is vibrant and
lovely
but
> what we hear in this video with Luca Pianca has everything to
do
with a
> microphone placement that allows the lute to be heard above the
rest of
> the band, as is certainly the case in the other recordings
mentioned.
> As far as I can tell, single stringing was sometimes used by
the
old
> ones but Luca Pianca's hand position is definitely
> historically-accurate for Vivaldi's era. The under thumb
approach
> ceased to exist with the advent of many additional basses,
circa
1600,
> and those who use that hand position in baroque music today are
> not using an historically-informed approach. So unless
> historically-informed now has something to do with microphone
> placement, I think the video example is compelling and musical.
>
> RA
>
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> From: [[6]5]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu
[7]<[6]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu> on
behalf
> of Matthew Daillie [8]<[7]dail...@club-internet.fr>
> Sent: Monday, October 10, 2016 1:54 PM
> To: fournierbru; [[9]8]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
> Subject: [LUTE] Re: Vivaldi lute concerto
>
>> On 10/10/2016 15:29, fournierbru wrote:
>> Hello all
>>
>> I would like your opinions on this interpretation of the
Vivaldu
> lute
>> concerto I found on YouTube.
>>
>> [1][9][10]https://youtu.be/u9m3ghjN0RE
> [2][maxresdefault.jpg]
> [3]Vivaldi - Lute Concerto in D major, RV 93 - Il Giardino
Armonico
> [10]youtu.be
> Antonio Vivaldi Lute Concerto in D major, RV 93 1 Allegro 2
Largo 3
> Allegro Luca Pianca, lute Il Giardino Armonico
>>
>> BRUNO
> Not my cup of tea. He's using what looks like a single strung
13-course
> liuto forte, very guitar like and not particularly enticing.
> Paul O'Dette and Ronn McFarlane have both recorded this work. I
suspect
> their interpretations are rather more subtle and historically
informed.
> Best
> Matthew
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