in Eastern Slavic languages that break is at 20.
RT
On 1/29/2018 10:03 AM, mjlh...@cs.dartmouth.edu wrote:
Interestingly in Catalan the break seems to occur between sixteen and
seventeen - quinze, setze, disset, perhaps because it is half way
between Italian and Spanish. In Latin from which both languages derive
it seems to come between ten and eleven - decem, undecim.
No obvious logic. Not that this has much to do with the lute.
Monica
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From: arc...@verizon.net
Date: 29/01/2018 13:43
To: <lute@cs.dartmouth.edu>
Subj: [LUTE] Re: four and twenty
Rainer & other linguaphiles--
I find it interesting that different languages have different
"breakpoints" in the teens: Spanish between 15 and 16 (quince,
dieciseis), Italian 16 and 17 (seidici, diciassette), English 12 and
13
(twelve, thirteen)--the ones I know. What's that about?
Leonard Williams
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From: Rainer <rads.bera_g...@t-online.de>
To: Lute net <lute@cs.dartmouth.edu>
Sent: Mon, Jan 29, 2018 4:38 am
Subject: [LUTE] four and twenty
A clarification:
I always thought that there must have been (sort of) an official
reform.
At least teachers must have a common opinion what to teach children.
Apparently there was none in England.
In Germany from time to time "mathematicians" propose to change the
German system since the current system makes learning Math hard for
the
children.
Of course, this has nothing to do with mathematics :)
I guess such a reform (in Germany) would be very confusing for
several
decades.
Switching from shillings and pennies to 100 pence per pound must
have
been hard.
Do many people still think in yards, miles, pints, ...?
Cheers,
Rainer
PS
A new standard kilogram will probably come soon.
PPS
Coming back to lute matters: most people describe string tensions in
terms of Kg which is plain nonsense since Kg is the unit of matter.
What should be used is Kilopond which is equal to the magnitude of
the
force exerted by one kilogram of mass in a 9.80665 m/s2
gravitational
field.
However, officially kilopond should not be used any more (since
c1980).
I still prefer to talk about a tension of 3 Kilopond instead of 29.4
Newton :)
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