While the unascribed pieces could by someone else, they surely play and
sound like Bartolotti.
Is there any other theorbo player from that time that we know of, who
could match the style and technique of these pieces?
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Subject: [LUTE] Re: Bartolotti music for theorbo
Thanks for this.
I have the Moscardi edition but he doesn't give any reasons for
thinking the pieces are by Bartolotti.
Unfortunately with lockdown I can't visit the library to check any
other sources but if I do eventually find some evidence I will let you
know.
Cheers
Monica
> On 04 June 2020 at 17:03 yuval.dvo...@posteo.de wrote:
>
>
> Maybe it's worth to take a look on some of the literature? There is:
>
> Boetticher: RISM B VII, p. 351-352 (rather useless, but he gives a
bunch
> of literature which I don't know)
> Meyer (ed.): Sources Manuscrites en Tablature III/1, S. 121-125 (he
> doesn't give any information on the other theorbo pieces, but I
> apparently in the lute part of the mansucript there's a piece by
> "Angelin de Rome" which Meyer supposed to identify as Bartolotti as
> well. And also there you'll find a lot of literature.)
> And there's a new edition by Massimo Moscardo: âA. M. Bartolotti,
Pièces
> pour théorbeâ, Paris (SFL) 1995, which could be worth to check!
>
> Please keep us informed, in fact I'm very curious what you're going
to
> find on this subject :-)
> Yuval
>
> Am 04.06.2020 17:45 schrieb Monica Hall:
> > Thanks Martyn
> > That's very helpful.
> > Regards
> > Monica
> >> On 04 June 2020 at 14:35 Martyn Hodgson
> >> <hodgsonmar...@mail.cs.dartmouth.edu> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> Dear Monica,
> >> No - I don't know if there are any grounds for attributing the
> >> other
> >> tiorba pieces in this Ms to Bartolotti other than, of course,
being
> >> adjacent in the same Ms. Incidentally the attribution of the
> >> Allemande
> >> (Allemanda di Angelo Michiele) is on f.89r. not 92r.
> >> The following Corrente with a variatione on 88r to 87v
(reversed
> >> folios) seems stylistically very close to the Allemanda, as
does
> >> the
> >> concluding Sarabanda with its variatione, so I'd be happy to
accept
> >> these as part of a suite by the same composer AM. The fact
that
> >> the
> >> earlier Ms pieces for tiorba (ie from 92 to 89) do not have the
> >> attribution to AM might suggest they're not by him, but....
> >> regards,
> >> Martyn
> >>
> >> On Thursday, 4 June 2020, 09:56:59 BST, Monica Hall
> >> <mjlh...@mail.cs.dartmouth.edu> wrote:
> >> Ms. 17706 in the Austrian National Library in Vienna includes
10
> >> pieces
> >> for theorbo usually attributed to Bartolotti. The Allemanda on
> >> f.92r is
> >> attributed to Angelo Michiele. Does anyone know on what grounds
the
> >> other nine pieces are attributed to Bartolotti?
> >> Thanks
> >> Monica
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