Hi John,

I suppose you refer to the Hersch article. Makes you wonder where the new
Hitlers really live: in Teheran or in Washington?

I suppose this is already old news for mail artists in the USA but here 
it is a hot item in the press. This confirms also what Ritter said in a 
speech a few months ago. Messiah Bush & cy are actually thinking of using 
nuclear weapons against Iran... Opposition against this crazy plot comes 
from the military! There is also a retired group of generals who came out
and asked that Rumsfeld gets the sack...

Fragment of the latest article by Seymour Hersch in the New Yorker 

For the full article, check: 

http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/articles/060417fa_fact
 


One of the military's initial option plans, as presented to the White 
House by the Pentagon this winter, calls for the use of a bunker-buster 
tactical nuclear weapon, such as the B61-11, against underground nuclear 
sites. One target is Iran's main centrifuge plant, at Natanz, nearly two 
hundred miles south of Tehran. Natanz, which is no longer under I.A.E.A. 
safeguards, reportedly has underground floor space to hold fifty 
thousand centrifuges, and laboratories and workspaces buried 
approximately seventy-five feet beneath the surface. That number of 
centrifuges could provide enough enriched uranium for about twenty 
nuclear warheads a year. (Iran has acknowledged that it initially kept 
the existence of its enrichment program hidden from I.A.E.A. inspectors, 
but claims that none of its current activity is barred by the 
Non-Proliferation Treaty.) The elimination of Natanz would be a major 
setback for Iran's nuclear ambitions, but the conventional weapons in 
the American arsenal could not insure the destruction of facilities 
under seventy-five feet of earth and rock, especially if they are 
reinforced with concrete. 

There is a Cold War precedent for targeting deep underground bunkers 
with nuclear weapons. In the early nineteen-eighties, the American 
intelligence community watched as the Soviet government began digging a 
huge underground complex outside Moscow. Analysts concluded that the 
underground facility was designed for "continuity of government"-for the 
political and military leadership to survive a nuclear war. (There are 
similar facilities, in Virginia and Pennsylvania, for the American 
leadership.) The Soviet facility still exists, and much of what the U.S. 
knows about it remains classified. "The 'tell' "-the giveaway-"was the 
ventilator shafts, some of which were disguised," the former senior 
intelligence official told me. At the time, he said, it was determined 
that "only nukes" could destroy the bunker. He added that some American 
intelligence analysts believe that the Russians helped the Iranians 
design their underground facility. "We see a similarity of design," 
specifically in the ventilator shafts, he said. 

A former high-level Defense Department official told me that, in his 
view, even limited bombing would allow the U.S. to "go in there and do 
enough damage to slow down the nuclear infrastructure-it's feasible." 
The former defense official said, "The Iranians don't have friends, and 
we can tell them that, if necessary, we'll keep knocking back their 
infrastructure. The United States should act like we're ready to go." He 
added, "We don't have to knock down all of their air defenses. Our 
stealth bombers and standoff missiles really work, and we can blow fixed 
things up. We can do things on the ground, too, but it's difficult and 
very dangerous-put bad stuff in ventilator shafts and put them to 
sleep." 

But those who are familiar with the Soviet bunker, according to the 
former senior intelligence official, "say 'No way.' You've got to know 
what's underneath-to know which ventilator feeds people, or diesel 
generators, or which are false. And there's a lot that we don't know." 
The lack of reliable intelligence leaves military planners, given the 
goal of totally destroying the sites, little choice but to consider the 
use of tactical nuclear weapons. "Every other option, in the view of the 
nuclear weaponeers, would leave a gap," the former senior intelligence 
official said. " 'Decisive' is the key word of the Air Force's planning. 
It's a tough decision. But we made it in Japan." 

He went on, "Nuclear planners go through extensive training and learn 
the technical details of damage and fallout-we're talking about mushroom 
clouds, radiation, mass casualties, and contamination over years. This 
is not an underground nuclear test, where all you see is the earth 
raised a little bit. These politicians don't have a clue, and whenever 
anybody tries to get it out"-remove the nuclear option-"they're shouted 
down." 

The attention given to the nuclear option has created serious misgivings 
inside the offices of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, he added, and some 
officers have talked about resigning. Late this winter, the Joint Chiefs 
of Staff sought to remove the nuclear option from the evolving war plans 
for Iran-without success, the former intelligence official said. "The 
White House said, 'Why are you challenging this? The option came from 
you.' " 

The Pentagon adviser on the war on terror confirmed that some in the 
Administration were looking seriously at this option, which he linked to 
a resurgence of interest in tactical nuclear weapons among Pentagon 
civilians and in policy circles. He called it "a juggernaut that has to 
be stopped." He also confirmed that some senior officers and officials 
were considering resigning over the issue. "There are very strong 
sentiments within the military against brandishing nuclear weapons 
against other countries," the adviser told me. "This goes to high 
levels." The matter may soon reach a decisive point, he said, because 
the Joint Chiefs had agreed to give President Bush a formal 
recommendation stating that they are strongly opposed to considering the 
nuclear option for Iran. "The internal debate on this has hardened in 
recent weeks," the adviser said. "And, if senior Pentagon officers 
express their opposition to the use of offensive nuclear weapons, then 
it will never happen." 

The adviser added, however, that the idea of using tactical nuclear 
weapons in such situations has gained support from the Defense Science 
Board, an advisory panel whose members are selected by Secretary of 
Defense Donald Rumsfeld. "They're telling the Pentagon that we can build 
the B61 with more blast and less radiation," he said. 

The chairman of the Defense Science Board is William Schneider, Jr., an 
Under-Secretary of State in the Reagan Administration. In January, 2001, 
as President Bush prepared to take office, Schneider served on an ad-hoc 
panel on nuclear forces sponsored by the National Institute for Public 
Policy, a conservative think tank. The panel's report recommended 
treating tactical nuclear weapons as an essential part of the U.S. 
arsenal and noted their suitability "for those occasions when the 
certain and prompt destruction of high priority targets is essential and 
beyond the promise of conventional weapons." Several signers of the 
report are now prominent members of the Bush Administration, including 
Stephen Hadley, the national-security adviser; Stephen Cambone, the 
Under-Secretary of Defense for Intelligence; and Robert Joseph, the 
Under-Secretary of State for Arms Control and International Security. 

The Pentagon adviser questioned the value of air strikes. "The Iranians 
have distributed their nuclear activity very well, and we have no clue 
where some of the key stuff is. It could even be out of the country," he 
said. He warned, as did many others, that bombing Iran could provoke "a 
chain reaction" of attacks on American facilities and citizens 
throughout the world: "What will 1.2 billion Muslims think the day we 
attack Iran?" 



GV


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From: John Barlow [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 21:16:45 -0700 (PDT)
To: ma-network@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: (",)  favorite mixtures of colors and textures



other lists suggest usa's planning covertly a sudden attack on iran 
is global war the answer to anything? 

other curios, prodi seems maybe to have won in italy 
and 

--- John Barlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> in oils bright red near varied yellows with black (unmixed) 
> and just a little area of blue on the pallet; in watercolour 
> purple blue and pink; in marker, red and black or yellow orange blue 
> blue and white and black is the best 3 colour for drying markers on
photocopy;
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> 
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> email to this accont [EMAIL PROTECTED] text only regular email 
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> 
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> 
> 
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> 
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