Jonathan,I noticed there is a Spanish ISO keyboard in addition to Spanish without ISO. So these keyboards essentially remap the physical keyboard? It appears that is what Donna experienced.
From E.T.'s Keyboard... ancient.ali...@icloud.com Science is not only compatible with spirituality; it is a profound source of spirituality.| --Carl Sagan On 7/6/2018 6:46 AM, Jonathan Cohn wrote:
Donna,First of all, I believe you said your keyboard selection was ISO which is a very specialized keyboard listed under “other languages”. I am not quite sure how it works. For those that have learned touch typing in the US but need to input a bit of accented characters there is besides the option-e for accent acute and option i for accent circumflex the US International keyboard. This makes the accent input more like on a PC where you don’t need to use a two finger keystroke to input accents.For more information read: https://www.macworld.com/article/1147039/os-x/accentinput.html Best Wishes, Jonathan CohnOn Jul 6, 2018, at 7:29 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:That's good to know, Anne. I can well believe that I may have changed something accidentally. Someday I may try it again.Cheers, DonnaOn Jul 6, 2018, at 12:36 AM, Anne Robertson <a...@anarchie.org.uk <mailto:a...@anarchie.org.uk>> wrote:I’m still using Sierra, but for years now I’ve had two keyboards configured on my Mac since French uses so many different accents. I’ve never had a problem switching keyboards and the French layout has never interfered with the functioning of any keys.Cheers, AnneOn 5 Jul 2018, at 21:23, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:No, I never got around to looking at the keyboard. I'm pretty comfortable entering diacritics with the accent key on the US keyboard, so I probably won't play with the Spanish one again till I have some time on my hands.Cheers, DonnaOn Jul 5, 2018, at 2:18 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:Taking a break from housework. I removed Spanish from Languages and Regions. Interesting that it was still in Keyboard prefs so removed that too. Now the text input menu is as it was before.Have you looked at the character viewer in that menu? Might be easier than having more than one keyboard. There's also an emoji viewer there.From E.T.'s Keyboard... ancient.ali...@icloud.com <mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com> Science is not only compatible with spirituality; it is a profound source of spirituality.| --Carl Sagan On 7/5/2018 11:19 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:Hi ET,Mostly I added the Spanish keyboard for grins. I may give it another go someday, but for now, I'm just sticking with US.Cheers, DonnaOn Jul 5, 2018, at 10:40 AM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote:Donna,I was curious so I went to Languages and Regions and added Spanish. This also added the Spanish keyboard in Keyboard preferences. Then I went to menu extras and could not find the text input menu. That is because it changed to US which is still my preferred language. So this is where one can chnge the language on the fly. Typically with just one language one can go to the text input menu and bring up the character viewer and select those oddball symbols so no need for extra keyboards if one only needs to type in an occasional foreign language character.As an aside I tested the option key and its fine. I am going to stop at that. (grins)From E.T.'s Keyboard... ancient.ali...@icloud.com Science is not only compatible with spirituality; it is a profound source of spirituality.| --Carl Sagan On 7/5/2018 4:55 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:Yeah, I don't think I'll ever change that setting again. lol Cheers, DonnaOn Jul 5, 2018, at 12:00 AM, 'Devin Prater' via MacVisionaries <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote:Maybe that control in extras is app-specific, or even trickier, document-specific, and the one in System Preferences is for everything else. Could be useful, although you’d have to really be good at remember what you use where.On Jul 4, 2018, at 9:47 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote:Yes. But then I removed it again once all this started happening. If you go into Extras, and go past battery status, you'll see it. I had just assumed it was a second occurrence of the control that appears under Keyboard prefs, but it must be different somehow.DonnaOn Jul 4, 2018, at 9:29 AM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote:You had installed a Spanish keyboard right? I followed the trail from the text input on menu extras. It was under the Input tab in keyboard preferences, right? Just curious in case I add a keyboard.From E.T.'s Keyboard... ancient.ali...@icloud.com Science is not only compatible with spirituality; it is a profound source of spirituality.| --Carl Sagan On 7/4/2018 4:56 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:Thanks. I can't take much credit, though. It was sheer dumb luck. Since I had already checked that setting under keyboard prefs, I could easily have gone the rest of my life without looking at it in the extras menu. I just assumed they were the same setting under different locations, but apparently they're not.Cheers, DonnaOn Jul 4, 2018, at 3:35 AM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:Hey donna, Great work. Glad you found it. Now if you do it again you'll know where to go. Awesome work. -----Original Message-----From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>Sent: Wednesday, 4 July 2018 3:24 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: OMG, I can't believe I fixed it!So after spending most of the evening trying to set up my new user profile, I fixed the option key problem.I was using the status menu to check the battery. In doing so, I passed over the Text Input item in the extras menu. It was set to Unicode Hex, rather than US. 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