Jayson, The top blog post on this site is currently on the topic of getting Gmail and others to accept self-hosted email:
https://infosec.engineering Looks like Jerry uses Mailgun. Michael Reeder mich...@hygeiacounseling.com Baltimore, MD On April 14, 2024 11:48:20 AM EDT, Michael Reeder -- Hygeia MS <mich...@securemail.hygeiacounseling.com> wrote: >Jayson, > >I'm not sure I'm fully knowledgeable enough in this matter to help, but >maybe... > >For my Mastodon VPS I use sendpulse.com as the outgoing SMTP server. They >have a surprisingly high threshold of free outbound SMTP messages they allow >per month before asking you for a paid plan. So far, I have had no problem >with blocked messages, so you might try them? > >FYI -- This is a company based in Ukraine with their servers in Germany, so >not sure what happens if Russia makes further strides in the war. > >-- Michael > >*Michael Reeder, LCPC >* >*Hygeia Counseling Services : Baltimore / Mt. Washington Village location* >*410-871-TALK / michael(at)hygeiacounseling.com* > > >On 3/16/2024 11:10 AM, Jayson Smith wrote: >> Hi, >> >> What I mean is that I'd love to find a good, reliable smarthost I can direct >> my SMTP server on my VPS to use. I've heard knowledgeable friends say over >> and over and over again, "Anyone who runs their own Email server is just >> asking for trouble, it's not worth it any more." The real problem I'm seeing >> is that seemingly within the last few years, at least some VPS providers >> (Linode and Digital Ocean for sure) have started getting entire IP ranges >> put on blocklists. My first experience of being put on UCEPROTECT level 3 >> was on January 20, 2021, and a few weeks ago my IP wound up on UCEPROTECT >> level 2. Yes, I know how the UCEPROTECT lists work, but the point is that I >> never used to find my IP on those lists, but now it happens every few >> months. I have to think something has happened to cause more spammers to use >> these providers. >> >> As for incoming Email, I'd like for my own SMTP server to be able to >> continue handling it. The reason is that I don't want some other Email >> provider's spam blocking software deciding what I get to see. I have some >> incoming spam control measures in place for specific Email addresses that >> tend to receive a lot of spam, but for me and my family members, everything >> gets through. Yes this means we get incoming spam that comes our way, but it >> also means we don't have to worry about an important incoming message going >> missing because it was sent to the spam folder or silently discarded. >> >> Thanks for any thoughts, >> >> Jayson >> >> On 3/16/2024 5:26 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: >>> Jayson Smith writes: >>> >>> > I'm getting really tired of these unexplained blacklistings. Does >>> > anyone know of any reliable outgoing Email service providers? >>> >>> What do you mean by that? Gmail for example allows you (or did allow >>> you 18 months ago) to validate an alternate address through the usual >>> "can you read this mail and send back a cookie" dance, and use those >>> validated addresses in From. >>> >>> Unfortunately, in my experience at least Gmail won't allow you to use >>> a non-gmail address in From unless you're using their app or browser >>> client. Authenticated SMTP to port 587 doesn't cut it for whatever >>> reason. The best I could figure out was sending through eg gmail >>> using From: m...@gmail.com and setting Reply-To. >>> >>> > Ideally I want to continue to handle my own incoming Email because >>> > I don't want someone else's spam blocking software deciding what >>> > Emails I receive. >>> >>> I don't know of freemail who allows that, unfortunately. The closest >>> I know of is Google, as above. >------------------------------------------------------ >Mailman-Users mailing list -- mailman-users@python.org >To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-users-le...@python.org >https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.python.org/ >Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 >Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 >Searchable Archives: https://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/ > https://mail.python.org/archives/list/mailman-users@python.org/ >Member address: mich...@hygeiacounseling.com ------------------------------------------------------ Mailman-Users mailing list -- mailman-users@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-users-le...@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.python.org/ Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: https://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/ https://mail.python.org/archives/list/mailman-users@python.org/ Member address: arch...@jab.org