Roald,
FYI:

<ahocevar> Hi CameronShorter, His Majesty wanted to see me?
<CameronShorter> hee, hee, hee.
<ahocevar> What's on your mind?
<CameronShorter> Just wanted to make sure we were on the same page re: 
OGC standard naming convensions.
<ahocevar> So the question is: to WMS-C or not to WMS-C?
<CameronShorter> It seems that WMS-C will be used to describe a 
component WMS, and that the Cached WMS as it stands doesn't have 
standard to latch onto.
<CameronShorter> But I'm expecting there to be a heated debate soon over 
what is included in a Tiled WMS standard.
<CameronShorter> So for the moment, I think we should avoid changing 
anything until the dust settles.
<CameronShorter> Which I believe is what you are suggesting too.
<ahocevar> I totally agree.
<ahocevar> So no Extension, but keep using WMS-C to tell Mapbuilder that 
we want "singleTile=false"
<CameronShorter> The problem that we are about to hit very soon is what 
to name the Component WMS. Maybe C-WMS (for the moment)
<CameronShorter> Yes
<ahocevar> I do not know the influence of Metacarta on the OGC, but they 
keep referring to the tiled WMS as implemented in TileCache and 
Geoserver as WMS-C.
<CameronShorter> (Roald is implementing a Component WMS now - he has it 
working in Openlayers, and should have a Mapbuilder version early next week)
<ahocevar> Which means what?
<CameronShorter> I believe he is working in a sandbox, so shouldn't have 
any effect on 1.5 or the trunk.
<CameronShorter> Should be rolled into the trunk soon.
<ahocevar> Cool. And for referring to it in WMC, he will use C-WMS?
<CameronShorter> Yes, I think so.
<CameronShorter> Unless you have a better idea.
<ahocevar> No, I'm in favour of this!
<CameronShorter> ok, Thanks.
<CameronShorter> I'm off to bed now.
<CameronShorter> night.

Cameron Shorter wrote:
> Andreas,
> I'm on IRC for the next 20 mins or so, if you are around.
>
> Comments inline.
>
> Andreas Hocevar wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> if we really are afraid of using terms that are not standard yet, we
>> have to use the Extension tag of OWSContext / Web Map Context to tell
>> Mapbuilder that we want a tiled layer. This could be done in a matter of
>> minutes, but I thought Cameron was not a friend of using the 
>> Extension tag.
>>   
> Correct, I'm not keen on the extension tag.
>
> Andreas Hocevar wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Roald de Wit wrote:
>>  
>>> Cameron has received some clarification about WMS-C: it is going to be
>>> used for Component WMS.
>>>       
>>
>> I am going to believe this as soon as there is a OWSContext spec, or a
>> Component-WMS spec that refers to this abbreviation, or a service type
>> for Web Map Context officially referred to by the OGC.
>>
>> Currently, because there is nothing official from the OGC, I do believe
>> in http://tilecache.org/#wmsc
>>
>>  
>>> That of course has consequences for our use of it in MB. Since WMS-C is
>>> now reserved for something other than TileCached WMS, do you think we
>>> should create a new blocking issue for 1.5rc1 and fix the naming?
>>>       
>>
>> Nothing is reserved, our code is working well, and I am not in favour of
>> blocking a release just because we are quicker than the OGC.
>
> Andreas, your logic makes sense.
> I think that WMS-C is most likely going to refer to a Component WMS as 
> being defined in the current OGC testbed. But as you say, we are ahead 
> of the curve again and should not hold up our build in order to be 
> compatible. The consequence is that some of our OWS Context docs will 
> break in the next release. But we can live with that.
>
>


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