"you can't disrespect females like you are. You dig ? You are dumber than apes when it come to the girls. So why not drop the extraordinary anti-women total bullshit and peace out ?" (means) = The problem with Afghanistan is the Women Factor and the treatment of women by one of the political factions in the country. ^^^^^ there is a profound issue of principle here concerning the status of women,and the principle is not Western decadence. Comment How does the Obama administration seeking a new alliance - to reform its relationship with the Taliban, change the status of women in Afghanistan? When their status is the direct expression of the rule of the Taliban? The name of this thread is "Obama says US may reach out to Taliban" - a political faction. The issue of this thread is the Taliban rather than the status of women in Afghanistan. If you were Obama, which you are not, you still could not do much about the status of women in Afghanistan because their status is governed by the Taliban and the Taliban as a political faction - institution, is the result of American policy shifts and supported by our bourgeoisie. Here is the problem: the crux missile liberals scream bloody murder about the treatment of women in Afghanistan and Iraq as the ideological reason for invasion of these countries by our government. Surely all communists understand this. Inasmuch as you have not written anything even remotely suggesting closing US basis in Afghanistan and withdrawing US military forces, I am assuming you support current American policy as Obama, in Afghanistan. Do you? On the contrary the issue of the status of women in Afghanistan - right now today, is in fact a question of Western decadence and the direct result of first the British Indian Empire in contest and conflict with the old Russian Empire and currently American imperial policy. How can this not be obvious? Are you not aware that the people who financially and militarily helped the Taliban into power live in our country and have government positions and was carrying out American imperialist policy? Perhaps, there is a misunderstanding of what drives American foreign policy, wherein one moment policy supports the Taliban, then overthrow the Taliban government, through invasion and now seeks realignment with the Taliban. Perhaps there is a need to more thoughtfully think out this penning away over the status of women in Afghanistan as the sharpest ideological hypocrisy of the bourgeoisie. What seems to be wrong is mistaking the Taliban for Afghanistan. ******************** CB: Iraq and Afghanistan are not identical in that the 9/11 attackers were based in the latter. Although Bush distorted and exaggerated the response in the response to Afghanistan, that aspect is not a nothing. Obama has expressed a sense that is a basis for paring down Bush's overreaction to that legitimate aspect. Reply It is agreed that Iraq and Afghanistan are not identical. The comment above are disturbing. Me think the destruction of Iraq was "distorted and exaggerated" and invading Afghanistan was nothing less than imperialist intrusion. It would seem you do in fact support the invasion of Afghanistan, but favor a "paring down" under the Obama administration, as the voice of American communists. And the voice of this Marxist list serv, rather than the voice calling for withdrawal of all American troops and the closing of American military bases - a goal of an important segment of the anti-war movement in our country. Me think that a paring down of US military troops anywhere on earth, is best driven by the voice in our domestic politics as the unconditional demand for the removal of our troops from specific countries. Perhaps I have again misunderstood your meaning . . . again. "Obama has expressed a sense that is a basis for paring down Bush's overreaction to that legitimate aspect." Is "that legitimate aspect" the invasion of Afghanistan? Trying to view the world through Obama eyes, rather than communist morality and vision is fraught with danger and in the end drives one into the camp of the imperialist bourgeoisie. Tragic. WL. **************Need a job? Find employment help in your area. (http://yellowpages.aol.com/search?query=employment_agencies&ncid=emlcntusyelp00000005)
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