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Lause got it right. The first time Obama ran, the customary leafy-headed white liberals on my job were all wetting their pants with delight. A black fellow union brother said he didn't think Obama could win. When I asked how come he said, "Because he's got a black wife." Perhaps some white radicals need to go through some experiences, whatever that means. T -----Original Message----- >From: Mark Lause via Marxism <marxism@lists.csbs.utah.edu> >Sent: Sep 13, 2014 3:28 PM >To: Thomas F Barton <thomasfbar...@earthlink.net> >Subject: Re: [Marxism] Fwd: Michael Moore Slams Obama: All He’ll Be Remembered >for Is ‘First Black President’ | Mediaite > >====================================================================== >Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. >====================================================================== > > >The trouble is that, in America, there are no lessons learned that >aren't rather thoroughly lost in the tsunami of media that accompanies >then and later washes out. > >I put Obama less on the black community than the white silly shits who >saw supporting him as a means of expiating guilt. After all, I think >Obama would hardly have been the first choice for African Americans, >while he was certainly the ideal first black president for the whites. > >ML > >Sent from my Windows Phone >From: Ernest Leif via Marxism >Sent: 9/13/2014 9:55 AM >To: Mark Lause >Subject: Re: [Marxism] Fwd: Michael Moore Slams Obama: All He’ll Be >Remembered for Is ‘First Black President’ | Mediaite >====================================================================== >Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. >====================================================================== > > >"Perhaps Afro-America had to go through this experience." > >Is an odd statement. I think I know what you mean, but I'm not sure Black >America needs to go through BHO, as much as the US needs to move on from >structural racism. > >Years from now we'll still find blacks defending the man against >antediluvian ideologues - for the record I don't think this is entirely a >good thing - but what many non-black radicals still fail to understand, and >sometimes it boggles my mind, is that most of us still identify first with >race, and second with class. > >There is no mass party or organization around these days to help flesh out >these particular American complexities. Until that comes along... > >On Sat, Sep 13, 2014 at 4:24 AM, Gary MacLennan via Marxism < >marxism@lists.csbs.utah.edu> wrote: > >> ====================================================================== >> Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. >> ====================================================================== >> >> >> Well I am more optimistic than this. I like to feel that the future is Red >> and that Obama will be remembered for the right-wing con artist that he is. >> Perhaps Afro-America had to go through this experience. Just like many >> women in America may have to go through the experience of having a woman >> president. Or maybe gay America will have to go through the experience of >> having an openly gay president. >> >> I hope not. I hope Obama is remembered for teaching all of us that "It's >> the class war, stupid". >> >> comradely >> >> Gary >> ________________________________________________ Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.csbs.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
