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It's the nature of the beast that this is a fruitless exercise. The game requires judging these people based on what they say going into an election. This is offered with no real consideration of their past and present records, which might provide a better indication of their intentions. But even those intentions tell us little about differently they might respond to events, opportunities and challenges that come up over the next four years. And their responses are going to be shaped by the same massive army of advisors, functionaries, lobbyists, pundits, etc. ML _________________________________________________________ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com