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Didn’t realize the discussion was theological. Thought it was political. Will 
adjust the register.

—CGE

> On May 13, 2017, at 6:25 PM, Louis Proyect via Marxism 
> <marxism@lists.csbs.utah.edu> wrote:
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> On 5/13/17 6:44 PM, Carl G. Estabrook via Marxism wrote:
>> 
>> There were indications this week (in addition to to the firing of
>> Comey) that that was happening, viz.,
>> 
>> Russia -
>> <http://www.atimes.com/article/trump-ignores-status-quo-apologists-engage-russia/
>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.atimes.com_article_trump-2Dignores-2Dstatus-2Dquo-2Dapologists-2Dengage-2Drussia_&d=DwMFaQ&c=8hUWFZcy2Z-Za5rBPlktOQ&r=tfHzwZBcTLEveiewRiq0OdhFmfRmlvZjpIBS0AUJ2v0&m=_83oy0QOxU9hI5RfiBqzDVM6pzyRWeMrVvfD8rClZHo&s=gKEJ4baUBhxaaGK21VBvkm_tdBc7-hG9tIy2rZrFSGc&e=>>;
>> and
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> 
> 
> I got a chuckle out of this from the article linked above:
> 
>       Therefore, Trump has retrieved his road map from the attic. The 
> presence of Henry Kissinger in the Oval Office for an unscheduled meeting 
> with Trump just before Lavrov walked in – accompanied by the famous “Russian 
> spy” Ambassador Sergey Kislayk – has been a deliberate ‘curtain raiser’. 
> Kissinger has longstanding personal equations with Russia’s President 
> Vladimir Putin, and of course the grey cardinal of US diplomacy had 
> engineered the era of détente with the Soviet Union.
> 
> ---
> 
> So fascinating how people like Carl, Paul Craig Roberts, Michael Hudson, Mike 
> Whitney, Diana Johnstone and Boris Kagarlitsky can get so enthused over Trump 
> and Putin becoming our age's Nixon and Mao. Kissinger was key to the first 
> rapprochement and seems to be key to the new one.
> 
> Under ordinary circumstances, people on the left understand that where 
> Kissinger goes, Satan follows close behind. But when you decide to 
> automatically put a plus where Nicholas Kristof puts a minus, the results 
> stagger the imagination.
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