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And I have to add: when Fleck is invited to De Niro’s tv show it is to play the clown, to entertain and, most of all, to be ridiculed, laughed at, not with. Hardly a sign of white privilege, but perhaps more like non-white artists and non-white culture were often treated historically. Website: http://filmint.nu/ Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/FilmInt Twitter: https://twitter.com/#!/FilmInt > 10 okt. 2019 kl. 09:29 skrev Daniel Lindvall via Marxism > <marxism@lists.csbs.utah.edu>: > > ******************** POSTING RULES & NOTES ******************** > #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. > #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. > #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. > ***************************************************************** > > Wow, what BS. Racism is obviously a matter of fact. But to imply that the > main driving force here is Fleck being spoilt by white privilege makes no > sense. Throughout most of the film he does his shitty, precarious, low pay > job and asks and expects basically nothing at all. On the contrary, he tries > to make his mum realize the Waynes of this world don’t give a damn about > them, white or black. Only when he has reason to believe he actually IS > Wayne’s biological son he comes to think for a moment that this will make a > real difference (a rather human reaction, I’d say). This arch-conservative > review, posing as anti-racist, is just a version of the line that the kind of > decent working conditions and welfare that the labour movement created are > themselves at their very core about white privilege and have spoilt white > workers who need to get over them and accept capitalism (”nature”, ”life”) as > it is. It is intended to silence and split workers. > > Re ”Joker”, I went to see it expecting to hate it, as I hate the Nolan films > (thinly disguised fascism, here’s my review: http://filmint.nu/?p=5351). It > is far from perfect and, yes, it could have treated its black characters > differently. But nevertheless this actually is the complex, intelligent film > that many claim the wildly overrated Nolan films to be. Class and > exploitation are at the heart of it, not white privilege. > > >> 10 okt. 2019 kl. 01:59 skrev Louis Proyect via Marxism >> <marxism@lists.csbs.utah.edu>: >> >> ******************** POSTING RULES & NOTES ******************** >> #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. >> #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. >> #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. >> ***************************************************************** >> > > > _________________________________________________________ > Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm > Set your options at: > https://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/daniel.lindvall%40filmint.nu _________________________________________________________ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: https://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
