More to the point about the nature of capitalism: not only private property, but the separation of the worker from implements of production, control of labor process, and ultimately from knowledge and skills. Role of technological deployment in reducing worker to appendage of machines, etc.
I'll have to see what else has been written on negation of negation that is usable. Engels' use of concept in dialectics of nature is total confusion and nonsense. I believe that Stalin omitted negation of negation and others approved of this. ############### On 3/23/10, waistli...@aol.com <waistli...@aol.com> wrote: > Negation of Negation: > > Marx presents > the equation as thus: > > "The capitalist mode of appropriation, the result of the capitalist mode of > production, produces capitalist private property. This is the first > negation of individual private property, as founded on the labor of the > proprietor. But capitalist production begets, with the inexorability of a law of > Nature, its own negation. It is the negation of negation. ^^^^^ CB: Excellent example. I presented this in argument with Rosa L, when she claimed that Marx didn't use any dialectics. ^^^^^^^ This does not > re-establish private property for the producer, but gives him individual property > based on the acquisition of the capitalist era: i.e., on co-operation and > the possession in common of the land and of the means of production. > > The transformation of scattered private property, arising from individual > labor, into capitalist private property is, naturally, a process, > incomparably more protracted, violent, and difficult, than the transformation of > capitalistic private property, already practically resting on socialized > production, into socialized property. In the former case, we had the > expropriation of the mass of the people by a few usurpers; in the latter, we have the > expropriation of a few usurpers by the mass of the people. [2] > > _http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1867-c1/ch32.htm_ > (http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1867-c1/ch32.htm) > > In Marx description above, private property does not negate or abolish > private property. ^^^^^ CB: He says "capitalist production... begets its own negation. ^^^^^^^ Rather, the form of private property is negated in > correspondence with qualitative changes in the means of production. ^^^^^ CB: What is the qualitative change in means of production that Marx mentions in the quote ? ^^^^^ Negation of the > negation signifies the preservation of the specific quality of the > contradiction pinpointed as the point of departure - the starting point of a > motion. CB: Elaborate this thought. ^^^^^ > > One can make anything the negation and negation of the negation of another > thing. For instance, one mode of production negation the previously > existing mode of production. The new displacing mode of production contains > within itself its unique quality begetting its own negation. Likewise, one > quantitative stage negates the stage from which it arises in an endless series > of negations. > > Since life is specific, it is best to be specific and define the process in > question and how one quality leaps to another qualitative reformation. > > In the wide sense of the motion - direction of society, primitive communism > is our starting point. Private property negates the primitive public > property relations. Private property passing through all its stages quantitative > stages of development and qualitative stages of modes of production, > founded on private property. > > Economic communism, founded on qualitatively new means of production, is > called "primitive communism" at a higher level or the negation of the > negation or a description of the motion of a gigantic historical process, > resulting in the reestablishment of public property. ^^^^ CB: This is a big thought in Marx and Engels idea. It doesn't get mentioned much. ^^^^^^^ Negation of the negation is > not a universal law of dialectics but rather an expression of the > dialectic of change. (see Dialectics, quantity, quality, the antagonistic element.) ^^^^^^^ CB: What dialectic is not a "dialectic of change" ? > _______________________________________________ Marxism-Thaxis mailing list marxism-tha...@lists.econ.utah.edu To change your options or unsubscribe go to: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/listinfo/marxism-thaxis _______________________________________________ Marxist-Leninist-List mailing list Marxist-Leninist-List@lists.econ.utah.edu To change your options or unsubscribe go to: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/listinfo/marxist-leninist-list
