Bill comrade,
it was nice to have Engel,s work 'Dialectics of Nature' mentioned on the
list. As matter of fact I have always had an interest as you say "in science
and nature", this particular work of Engels caused me to study, alongside
Marxist philosophy and scientific-socialism, Engel,s investigation into the
"basic forms of motion". It has been a particular line of study for me for
some 35 years to continue the investigation he initiated in the work; the
investigation takes up the challenge which lies in the fact that while man
has discovered and defined inumerable processes of transformation of matter
from lower to higher or from the simpler to the more complex forms of matter
in motion, he has not yet defined the *simplest* form of motion.
This was Engels objective in the work, unfortunately he was unable to
continue or apply himself fully to this particular task due to his priority
commitment to edit and publish Marx's extensive works on Capital. The
question still remains as a scientific challenge to Marxists and socialism.
The identification of this particular form of motion will reveal the
foundation for the origin of whole development of matter and motion from the
simplest to the highest form (thinking). Such a discovery will be of great
advantage to all the sciences natural and applied and the basis of a better
understanding of the historical development of the universe. This is a
prospect for socialism, for capitalism has tried and failed in the attempt
to discover this particular form with their mechanical thinking. For example
Newton declared it to be "mere change of place", this apparently still
stands today. Interesting isn't it?
If any Marxist on the list has a similar interest in the dialectics of
nature and this particular challenge then he or she is welcome to contact me
off list in the interests of revolutionary socialist science.
Thank you Bill for pointing out Engels thoughts on ecology and please excuse
my digression,
fraternally Alan.
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> There is an exellent little piece writen by,
> I am completely certain, Frederick Engels
> in a book, I am almost certain, called
> Dialectics of Nature in which he describes
> how a forested area is chopped down and
> used for pasture for only 3 years before
> the rain washes away the topsoil and
> renders the whole area completely useless
> for farming or anything else.
>
> (I think this was in Colonial Territories)
>
> It describes in detail exactly how McDonalds
> etc are treating S. America today.
>
> This was written over 100 years ago -
> Dialectics of Nature is available, at least
> some chapters from the Marks & Engels
> Archives which is definately on the net
> somewhere ;-)
>
> http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/
>
> All in all this is a jolly good read especially
> if you are interested in Science and
> Nature.
>Snip...
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