Quick status update --

I've committed code to font_manager that will retrieve the list of all 
installed fonts from fontconfig if available (using making a shell call 
to fc-list).  This will handle the cases where users want to use fonts 
that have been installed in non-standard places or their distributions 
do something different.

I've decided to put off making other improvements to font_manager for 
the time being.  I'm somewhat torn between adding a dependency on 
fontconfig and having all those issues taken care of by others, or 
adding incremental fixes to font_manager, but maintaining easy 
Python-level portability.

A new thing that makes fontconfig particularly compelling is looking up 
fonts based on the character sets they contain.  This would be very 
useful for mathtext when using non-Computer Modern (Bakoma) fonts, for 
instance.  It could all be done without fontconfig, of course, but it 
would be reinventing a rather large wheel.

My original impetus to support fontconfig, to help the Cairo backend 
behave more like our other backends, is less important, IMHO.  It seems 
unlikely, from my response on the cairo mailing list, that pycairo will 
grow an API to load fonts directly from a file.

Some more information --

- I've successfully built it on Mac and Windows (with Mingw32) and it 
seems to be doing the right things there, without any post-install 
configuration work.

- The API allows applications to add their own font directories on the 
fly, so everything could continue work the way it does now (by looking 
in the mpl-data directory for fonts).

- The Python wrappers for the parts we need would be quite minimal. 
(Probably only two functions FcFontMatch and FcConfigAppFontAddDir.)

- fontconfig depends on expat for XML reading.

- It appears that both the fontconfig and expat licenses would permit us 
to distribute them with matplotlib if we chose to.  We would probably 
only want to use the embedded versions when the OS doesn't provide it 
(OS-X and Windows).

In any case, I'm just putting this on the table.  It's always hard to 
weigh those tradeoffs.

Cheers,
Mike

Michael Droettboom wrote:
> Just wanted to link up this thread with a question I posed on the cairo 
> mailing list.
> 
> http://lists.cairographics.org/archives/cairo/2007-August/011201.html
> 
> Cheers,
> Mike
> 
> Eric Firing wrote:
>> Michael Droettboom wrote:
>> [...]
>>> One middle ground I thought of since my first message is to use 
>>> fc-list to get a list of all the fonts on the system, and continue to 
>>> use font_manager.py for the font matching.  If "fc-list" is not 
>>> available, it could fall back to the hard-coded paths it uses now.  Of 
>>> course, the matching in font_manager.py would still need to be improved.
>> Sounds reasonable.
>>
>> While you are poking around in font_manager: this is one of the biggest 
>> chunks of mpl script startup time, even with the present caching.  I 
>> haven't looked very closely or done any testing, but I suspect more 
>> extensive caching could work fine.  Specifically, can the entire 
>> fontManager instance be pickled, and loaded if it exists?
>>
>> Eric
>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Mike
> 
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