In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Brian Suda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
>On 4/23/07, Paul Wilkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> For the purposes of discussion, a more generic version of this is >> >> <div class="vcard"> >> <span class="n"> >> <span class="honorific-prefix">The Rt Hon</span> >> <span class="fn">Tony Blair</span> >> <span class="honorific-suffix">MP</span> >> </span> >> </div> >> >> An update may be required, where then fn is looked for first, and parsed out >> into appropriate n fields, then after that the n fields are updated from the >> remaining information. > >--- well, this a tricky situation because the author has been MORE >explicit with the use of the N property. We can happily pick apart >things from FN when N is not present, but when the author expresses >deeper semantics IMHO i don't think we should be implying any >additional information, unless there is a very good reason. Since you're answering a "copy" of my post, and not the original, I'll remind you that I went on to say: Tails gives: Name: The Rt Hon Tony Blair MP Full Name: Tony Blair Given Name: % Family Name: % Additional Name: % Honorific Prefix: The Rt Hon Honorific Suffix: MP Nickname: % Operator gives: fn=Tony Blair object n { object honorific-prefix { 0=The Rt Hon } object honorific-suffix { 0=MP } and exports: BEGIN:VCARD N;CHARSET=UTF-8:;;;The Rt Hon;MP FN;CHARSET=UTF-8:Tony Blair Which is right, and is the mark-up valid? It's not possible to mark up given- and family- names, as this is template generated, and the granularity cannot be guaranteed. >In this situation there are two possibilities. >1) drop the N all together >- you lose the extracting of the prefixes and suffixes, but get the >FN->N correct >2) add an additional class of 'family-name' to the class="fn" >- this will incorrectly put the WHOLE FN value in the N's family name field 1) Seems harmful, as data is lost. 2) is, as you say incorrect; but also impossible in the case concerned. -- Andy Mabbett * Say "NO!" to compulsory ID Cards: <http://www.no2id.net/> * Free Our Data: <http://www.freeourdata.org.uk> * Are you using Microformats, yet: <http://microformats.org/> ? _______________________________________________ microformats-discuss mailing list microformats-discuss@microformats.org http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microformats-discuss