In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Guillaume Lebleu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
>>> In Andy's example above, the date is not a property of the "hmoney" >>>class, but of a TBD "hprice" class. >> >> I don't see any advantage in making such a distinction, nor any >>problem in not doing so, >> >> Perhaps you could enlighten me, with real-world published examples? >> >The advantage is less confusion. > >If I'm a publisher and I need to mark up POSH the following "The Euro >stood at 1.41 US dollars in September 2007", > >We don't want publishers to mark up: > >"The Euro stood at ><span class="money">1.41 > <span class="currency" title="USD">US dollars</span> > in > <span class="date">September 2007</span> ></span>". I'm not aware that anyone has suggested that that is what we want. >Of course that is, unless you think the following is not better a >better reflection of the intent of the author: > >"<span class="exchangerate"> [...] Nor do I see any proposal for marking up exchange rates. This is a proposal for marking up amounts of money in single currencies (which could I agree, be combined into an exchange rate microformat at some later date. >I looked at most of the historic prices examples you presented: >http://microformats.org/wiki/currency-examples#Historic_prices > >For what I can see, in most of these examples, the datetime near a >money amount usually related to the relationship between a currency and >another, or a currency and a commodity, not to the currency itself. For some value of commodity: In 1950 the average weekly wage was X The Beatles first single sold for one shilling The last Monet painting to be auctioned fetched $95 million in 2005 >When a datetime is nearby, it usually refers to the datetime of the >posting, or of the general context in which the events described must >be taken. The latter is what's being discussed here. >In other words, in most cases and example shown, the datetime of the >money amount is implicit, inferred from the context, not explicit. I don't follow. > Theses date time should not be marked up as part of the money amount, >but as part of a "price" class, "article" class, or "exchangerate" >class. There is no proposal or such classes; if you are making such a proposal, then I'm afraid your reasoning is still not clear to me; and neither is your claimed reduction in confusion (in fact the reverse). >sA datetime explicitly linked to a money amount is much rarer. The only >case I can think of where a date is directly related to a currency is >in "Damage in Bay County, Florida alone totaled US$50 million (1975 >dollars)" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_Eloise. > >In this example, you are correct, we should have: > >"Florida alone totaled <span class="hmoney"><span class="currency" >title="USD">US$</span><span class="value" title="50000000">50 >million</pan> <span class="date">(1975 dollars)</span></span>" "1975 dollars" is not a meaningful date (I'm not even sure it's meaningful English). >So, while I can find an example that support your feature suggestion, I >believe the above example where the date of the currency is not >implicit is rare enough to be left aside for now for the purpose of >moving this proposal forward and avoiding confusion within publishers. I don't believe it is rare; I could provide many further examples, but they would just involve repetitions of the models already discovered. -- Andy Mabbett _______________________________________________ microformats-new mailing list microformats-new@microformats.org http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microformats-new