What does this have to do with OpenBSD?

Raul Miller <rauldmil...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 1:37 PM Consus <con...@ftml.net> wrote:
> > On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 05:10:14PM +0200, Oddmund G. wrote:
> > > I know all this, Ottavio. I have been using GNU+Linux since 1994 after
> > > several years with Ultrix/VMS/OpenVMS @DEC: Slackware in the beginning, 
> > > then
> > > Debian until the forced introduction of systemd and the rest of the crap
> > > being considered as 'much better' and 'mandatory'.
> >
> > Because systemd is good enough "base tools suite". Think of it as a base
> > system like OpenBSD provides. It has a _lot_ of issues with reliability,
> > consistency and whatever, but simply put, other Linux folks failed to
> > provide similar tools. Maybe someday someone will make something better.
> 
> I think that thinking of it this way would be some kind of mistake:
> 
> Last I checked, systemd was not modular, was poorly documented,
> exhibited incompatibilities with basically all historical interfaces,
> and had introduced a variety of boot-time race conditions (which
> mostly hit people who tried to change the configuration from the
> default). These are all solvable problems, but OpenBSD is not the only
> distribution which suffers from a lack of competent contributions.
> 
> I don't think Linux is particularly doomed -- computer systems tend to
> stick around far longer than most sales pitches would have you
> believe. But these are concerning issues.
> 
> But that's also why these sorts of discussions tend to be fairly
> worthless. While there are attractive things (for some use cases)
> about systemd, the likelihood of a competent port to OpenBSD (which
> addresses the above listed problems) isn't something anyone is
> volunteering for. It would be a lot of work -- possibly a complete
> rewrite and more work than anyone has put into systemd to date.
> 
> -- 
> Raul
> 

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