Jim, I did not acquire mercury poisoning through the skin. I took mercury into my body by swallowing it. My mother said I had been healthy up until then. I missed one third of the 1st grade and my health has been poor since then. I do believe that the mercury that has been found in my body has caused this. Yes, I agree that we should change the base like you said.
I agree 100% about the smoking. I see no reason why those who smoke could not have a room to themselves. I do not like this type of regulations either. I have had severe allergies and my mom and dad smoked like your ex-wife. I am allergic to smoke and do not think they should have smoked in the car when we took trips. They acted like they would kill us if we ever started. My sister and I did not and I am glad I didn't. I even tried it several times and it did nothing for me anyway, but it did cause a coughing attack. What you are saying is that we should look at both sides now (Neil Diamond) and try to see to it that people are free to kill themselves. My mother smoked from the age of 18 (toothache) until she was 81. She did die of COPD, asthma and pneumonia. I never asked her to stop because that is her business. Linda ----- Forwarded Message ---- From: James Hornaday Jr. <rail...@sbcglobal.net> To: missourilibertycoalition@googlegroups.com Sent: Fri, February 11, 2011 10:00:26 PM Subject: Re: [MoLiCo] FYI / Autism/ CENTER, MO. Linda: I think your anecdote of having had all the vaccine shots is very similar to my long-term experience with second hand smoking. My first wife, Jane, was a nearly continuous two to three packs a day smoker. Her ultimatum before we were married was "Love me, live with my smoking!" I inhaled her second hand smoke for 47 3/4 years. I never got lung cancer or emphasima. Correspondingly, I can't get too excited by all the anti-smoking control people with their (to me unproven) claims that second hand smoke kills everybody that even sniffs it. Second example: When I was in high school, I loved chemistry. The teacher made 4 students in our class (me, for one) lab assistants in executing the experiments. We handled lots of mercury. We coated coins with mercury to make them 'shiny'. When we spilled the stuff, we brushed up the little liquid mercury beads on the floor into dust pans with our hands, and then sprinked the floor with sulfur powder (which mixed with the mercury, and allowed us to pick up the really fine stuff. If that happened today, the school would have to evacuate the school, call in the environmental disaster people with complete environmental breathing hazard suits, and not let anybody back in until the whole building was guaranteed to be mercury-free. Yeah yeah. Anecdotal experience (by one person) do not constitute verified scientific truth. This is just something I subjectively feel. I can't avoid the feeling that the anti-smoking people are pushing their smoking ban legislation too hard and too fast. There are too many elitist people in this world that would like to totally control what the rest of us do. We have 'em here right in Springfield. (like the majority of those on city council and every single one on the SPS board) I kinda feel the case for mercury causing autism similarly has NOT been proven. Maybe yes, maybe no. There's no reason why developing a mercury free vaccine base shouldn't be a primary objective. Jim Hornaday ________________________________ From: Linda Herd <linda.h...@sbcglobal.net> To: missourilibertycoalition@googlegroups.com Sent: Fri, February 11, 2011 12:11:48 PM Subject: Fw: [MoLiCo] FYI / Autism/ CENTER, MO. Fo;ks. and Tmartz, Personally I think that my mercury poisoning is bad. I had all the shots and do not think they had a lot of affect. That does not mean that other children are not affected greatly. We need to study a new vaccine base so that the number of autistic children lessens. How much proof does anyone need? Linda Herd ----- Forwarded Message ---- From: spfdgolf <spfdg...@att.net> To: missourilibertycoalition@googlegroups.com Sent: Thu, February 10, 2011 2:01:14 PM Subject: [MoLiCo] FYI / Autism/ CENTER, MO. Subject: Autism/ CENTER, MO. just another one of the same story..... one of about 700,000 http://www.connecttristates.com/news/story.aspx?id=578196&sms_ss=facebook&at_xt=4d52922a38ad328d%2C0 CENTER, MO. -- Some say it's a fraud, others say they have living proof. You've probably heard of the 1998 studyby Dr. Andrew Wakefield. His findings linked autism to the mumps, measles and rubella vaccine children normally get during the first years of life. That report made some parents afraid of giving vaccines to their children. That same report was since retracted by the medical journal The Lancet. Some doctors say as a result of that study, we saw outbreaks of previously-contained diseases like whooping cough. Then earlier this year, the British Medical Journal discredited Wakefield's study, claiming it was based on doctored information and hand-picked test subjects. Since then many other journals have chimed in. Click here to see what Natural News is saying. But for thousands of parents who have autistic children, the studies have little to do with reality. Curt and Kimberly Linderman of Center, Missouri are among the growing number of families who say their child is living proof that vaccines can cause autism, no matter what the reports say. "It was like he was stolen from us," said Kimberly Linderman. Kaden Linderman suffers from autism, but his parents say it wasn't always like this. Curt and Kimberly Linderman say Kaden was a walking, talking, 15-month-old boy when he went to the doctor's office. Kimberly Linderman said, "They call it the catch-up schedule. He got 9 vaccines in 6 shots in one day." Curt Linderman said, "Just like any other parent, we believed in the vaccines and felt the need to keep our child disease-free." Kimberly Linderman said, "I held our son when they put the needles in him. They told me to give him Tylenol and I took him home." Curt Linderman said, "A couple of hours after the vaccines, he started running a fever. Within 24 hours, he had exploding diarrhea that ended up lasting three-and-a-half years." Kimberly Linderman said, "He quit looking at me. He quit noticing his surroundings and he didn't even care. He would just sit by himself and just scream." Curt Linderman said, "He also lost his verbal communication." Kimberly Linderman said, "He would lay across the couch and press his stomach and his head into everything." Curt Linderman said, "It was really a failure to thrive ... and it was immediately after the vaccine." Kimberly Linderman said, "At first, we didn't even think about the vaccine. It was so ingrained in us that vaccines were a normal part of childhood that it never occurred to us. I took him to the doctor at least twice a week and asked the doctor, 'What happened to him, where is my son? This is not the same child that I had. Where did he go?'" After getting no answers, the Lindermans started doing their own research and discovered their son had developed autism. Kaden's story led them down a path of leadership in autism awareness. Through their work with Autism File Magazine and Autism One Radio, they've met thousands of parents who share the same story. The Lindermans say numbers don't lie. In the '80s, one in 10 thousand children was diagnosed with autism. Now the CDC says it's one in 91 kids. Curt Linderman said, "There is a direct correlation between the growing numbers of autistic children and the number of vaccines being offered all over the country" Now it's their life's work to warn other parents of the dangers. Curt Linderman said, "I am furious. We're being lied to: It's as simple as that -- we're being lied to. There are studies out there that are confirming it and the doctor listening to the American Academy of Pediatrics. They're listening to them and not looking at the facts. And the facts are, vaccines play a major role in the autism epidemic." Perhaps more frustrating to the Lindermans is how quickly the medical field turned its back on Dr. Wakefield's research. Reporter: They say it's not true-- what do you say to that? Curt Linderman said, "I find it hard to believe that they saythe study that linked autism to vaccines was debunked when it wasn't a study looking at the vaccine issue. It was originally a study of 12 children with gastrointestinal issues. The MMR became a factor in that study. Dr. Wakefield never said vaccines caused autism. That's a fallacy in and of itself. In the actual 1998 Lancet study, he said it was a hypothesis. (He said) we should study it more. He's (Dr. Wakefield) been made out to be a villain and now his career has been destroyed. His reputation has been destroyed and all for the advancement of the pharmaceutical industry. Other doctors won't touch it because they don't want to become 'another Wakefield.'" Reporter said, "What would you say to experts who are telling me autism is not tied to these vaccinations?" Kimberly Linderman said, "It's been replicated in five times in five different countries. There are 28 studies proving the same thing that he proved. He never said vaccines caused autism. He was studying 12 children that were referred to him with gastrointestinal problems. While he's (free lance reporter Brian Deer) is out there trying to discredit Dr. Wakefield, every 20 minutes a child is diagnosed with autism. Millions of children are out there. Millions of children in pain. Why is all this time and money being spent making one man a villain with millions of children in pain? The Lindermans suggest reading 'Silent witnesses,' the book written by the parents of the children in the original study who still support Dr. Wakefield's research. *********************** there are no vaccine problems with Dr. Nancy....... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Si--hmWK2A ************** Dr. Nancy, Matt Lauer & Dr. Paul Offit today.msnbc.msn.com/id/26184891/vp/27453507 -- This is a Free Speech forum. The owner of this list assumes no responsibility for the intellectual or emotional maturity of its members. If you do not like what is being said here, filter it to trash, ignore it or leave. If you leave, learn how to do this for yourself. If you do not, you will be here forever. -- This is a Free Speech forum. The owner of this list assumes no responsibility for the intellectual or emotional maturity of its members. If you do not like what is being said here, filter it to trash, ignore it or leave. If you leave, learn how to do this for yourself. 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