Hello, Which native instrument pad is it? Traktor 4 I believe because of the bug report. Just curious how does that device map on Linux (any lsusb and dmesg)? Is it HID or just raw USB device (just wondering does it emit anything on Linux). I made some reverse engineering back in the days but it's long a go (but I still believe I can do it :D). I don't believe protocol is uber strange but they can be tricky to get first kick but after that they tend to drop on your lap fair easily. Does it still support Windows XP because there is easiest to sniff USB and we could get on with just sniffed packets to see if it's reverse engineerable easily or is more difficult. Also Mac OS X can handle USB sniffing fair easily but you need to know little more about what you are doing.
Thanks, Tuukka 2015-03-19 2:51 GMT+02:00 Ronald Stewart <ronaldjstew...@gmail.com>: > Be > Im glad you wrote back great timing. > You can spend a few days making an indigogo fundraiser or you can throw in > the vitals and let Titl make it for you > the best thing is you can embed anywhere a lil frame size of your campaign > on anything on the net. > For your needs I strongly suggest trying this first and save time and > scammers go with this product. > Its exactly the same but easier less headaches. > http://tilt.tc/love-rstewart9202 > > Also I forgot what RAWRR wrote about what is Be in the terms of great > experience not just the product but not being a fraud ya know its really bad > again like 1998 in Seattle internet was full of sammmers. He is DEAD ON with > protecting the brand and yourself by being known as a guy who dreamed big > and delivered and delivered over time. That part is super valuable cuz I'm > sure RAWRR knows how many times he's seen good idea with tight eecution turn > to mush. > Remember you don't have to be everything to everyone, just the right thing > for the right ones. > > God seed young Skywalker > > Ronald Stewart > Indamixx > > On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 5:27 PM, Be <b...@gmx.com> wrote: >> >> I've been thinking I could turn the fundraising campaign into an >> opportunity to raise funds to donate hardware that doesn't currently >> work with Mixxx to a developer who will make Mixxx work with it. In >> particular, I am thinking of donating a Native Instruments controller >> that uses NHL to someone who wants to reverse-engineer their proprietary >> protocol. See https://bugs.launchpad.net/mixxx/+bug/1432442 Also, I'd >> like to offer each of the core Mixxx developers a gratis Crossfade USB >> drive. >> >> This is all contingent upon raising at least enough funds for me to >> break even on ordering the USB drives. That'll mean I'd need at least >> ~$1000 for an order of 50 drives. I don't have $1000 to spend on this, >> so if the Indiegogo campaign does not succeed, there will be no order >> and everyone who donated will be refunded. >> >> I'm also thinking about offering stereo-to-mono splitter cables as a >> cheaper perk for a few dollars. With the new Mixxx mono output support >> in 1.12, this could be really useful. (It's possible to reroute Mixxx's >> output with JACK to achieve mono output with 1.11, but I don't expect >> most DJs to be able to do that or care enough to figure it out.) >> >> On 03/17/2015 12:35 AM, re-cy...@hushmail.com wrote: >> > Be, >> > >> > Thanks. Releasing the hash(es) on whatever devlist is associated >> > with the project is clean protocol, and Gavin articulated the >> > security aspect nicely. >> > >> > More on selling software: >> > >> > Proprietary paid product: must have comprehensive product support >> > resources, all support is handled by the company. >> > >> > OSS paid product: same, but some of the product support can be >> > provided by the users themselves if they have proper places to >> > congregate and exchange info, in other words wikis, forums, >> > devlists, bug trackers - and even then the ultimate responsibility >> > for support has to be the responsibility of the company/seller. >> > >> > OSS unpaid product: same as the latter, but only as best practices >> > because ultimately in this case no one really owes anyone anything >> > ever. >> > >> > No matter what though, out-of-band hashes straight from whoever is >> > building the software should be provided to the users for security >> > reasons (which double as download integrity checks). This is why >> > MD5 is deprecated, because in security terms, it can be broken. >> > >> > Gavin, >> > >> > If Be sold empty drives that wouldn't "be" ;) different enough than >> > just installing them on your own to your own drive. >> > >> > ~RAWRR >> > >> > >> > On Mon, 16 Mar 2015 16:42:54 +0000 "Be" <b...@gmx.com> wrote: >> > > SHA256 sums of every file in the torrent: >> > > 3986214070d1d0dca05b139506efe2e040341468cb5edd578027c7a23f86eb52 >> > > crossfade-0.90.iso >> > > a5080ec5dc682d0e0eccd029f1ead985829fff3b6f7924975e44f9f162718a45 >> > > crossfade-0.90.ks >> > > 9086b8019d17b66bdf77696cf5dfad08dceadb1667bd07fc83549a06e580df98 >> > > crossfade-boot >> > > 95f05b9cb49c9123b3074044fa2fa1df82c8d9ef4e0c3a16f7be32c8b773c0ba >> > > crossfade-manual.html >> > > e5135f57af4551bdd91456b56ead95e77075d6dbbe7859324c92ad30367ab452 >> > > crossfade-usb-install >> > > 8ceb4b9ee5adedde47b31e975c1d90c73ad27b6b165a1dcd80c7c545eb65b903 >> > > license >> > > a4cecac3570f8a6c7eaccea0dcbeace1c9fd55b2fa05539149de6c91fd7e5ad8 >> > > license.html >> > >> > > On 03/16/2015 11:22 AM, Gavin Swanson wrote: >> > >> EDIT: >> > >> >> > >> The point of the HASH is not just to verify download integrity. >> > > It >> > >> also serves as a check that what you've said you published is >> > > what got >> > >> downloaded. So if I see the hash on the email list and download >> > > it >> > >> from a torrent or something I can verify that the torrent >> > > download >> > >> matches your release announcement, and not just that I have a >> > >> uncorrupted hacked download or something. >> > >> >> > >> Gavin S >> > >> >> > >> On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 9:19 AM, Gavin Swanson >> > > <gavinswan...@gmail.com >> > >> <mailto:gavinswan...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> > >> >> > >> The point of the HASH is not just to verify download >> > > integrity. It >> > >> also serves as a check that what you've said you published. >> > >> >> > >> On the topic of selling a few branded flash drives I >> > > understand >> > >> that some people would expect support, but if you make it >> > > clear >> > >> that you're just selling the branded drive and not the >> > > distro or >> > >> support for the distro you should be fine. Maybe sell the >> > > drive >> > >> blank and make people load it themselves that removes you >> > > from >> > >> being responsible for the content of the drive. >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> Gavin S >> > >> >> > >> On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 5:51 AM, Be <b...@gmx.com >> > >> <mailto:b...@gmx.com>> wrote: >> > >> >> > >> Regarding source code: I accidentally included it all in >> > > the >> > >> torrent >> > >> this time. I meant to only put the ISO image, installer >> > >> script, license, >> > >> and manual in the torrent and leave out the Kickstart >> > > file and >> > >> boot >> > >> script. All of that (minus the ISO image) is in the >> > > filesystem at >> > >> /usr/share/crossfade as explained in the manual section >> > > entitled >> > >> "Modification". >> > >> >> > >> SHA1 sum of the ISO image: >> > >> 27b172a6ec78a8dd308863db3a2f9fea08430171 >> > >> >> > >> On 03/16/2015 07:41 AM, Be wrote: >> > >> > The livecd-creator tool I use the build the ISO image >> > >> automatically uses >> > >> > implantmd5sum. If you have checkisomd5 installed, the >> > >> installer script >> > >> > automatically checks the integrity of the ISO before >> > >> installing. I >> > >> > didn't realize till now that checkisomd5 is a >> > >> Fedora-specific program. >> > >> > The md5sum of the ISO is: >> > > d0188585047a26cb322b424838857e7c . >> > >> However, >> > >> > any BitTorrent client should verify the integrity of >> > > the >> > >> download >> > >> > automatically. >> > >> > >> > >> > Regarding wiki, forums, and homepage stuff, I just >> > > applied >> > >> for hosting >> > >> > on Savannah. >> > >> > >> > >> > Yeah, I agree that I don't want to sell anything with >> > >> Crossfade on it >> > >> > until it gets more widely tested. Thanks for raising >> > > the >> > >> questions about >> > >> > support. I'll have to think about that. >> > >> > >> > >> > On 03/16/2015 05:42 AM, re-cy...@hushmail.com >> > >> <mailto:re-cy...@hushmail.com> wrote: >> > >> >> Hi Be! Progress is cool! >> > >> >> >> > >> >> I think selling them should be held off until they've >> > > been >> > >> out in >> > >> >> the field awhile and there is a chance for bug >> > > reports and >> > >> stuff. >> > >> >> Also, with cost comes an obligation toward product >> > > support, >> > >> are you >> > >> >> ready for that? Does Crossfade have its own wiki, >> > > forums, >> > >> homepage? >> > >> >> Those are other things for consideration in creating >> > >> Crossfade as a >> > >> >> product. It seems like product support will be the >> > > biggest >> > >> >> challenge. Also the source should be up somewhere for >> > > users >> > >> to poke >> > >> >> at (and file the inevitable bug reports). >> > >> >> >> > >> >> The container sounds cool. Who makes it? >> > >> >> >> > >> >> Also, very important when publishing these things to >> > > a >> > >> mailing list >> > >> >> (not to mention eventually your website) - HASHES. >> > > Out of band >> > >> >> verification is good stuff. I request at least sha1, >> > > I prefer >> > >> >> sha256. MD5 is deprecated and should not be used. >> > >> >> >> > >> >> Yay for getting the .iso out! I'm gonna wait for you >> > > to >> > >> publish the >> > >> >> hash here before I download though, >> > >> >> >> > >> >> ~RAWRR >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> On Mon, 16 Mar 2015 05:09:18 +0000 "Be" <b...@gmx.com >> > >> <mailto:b...@gmx.com>> wrote: >> > >> >>> Crossfade GNU/Linux 0.90 is a cross-platform digital >> > > DJ >> > >> system for >> > >> >>> USB >> > >> >>> flash and portable hard drives. Crossfade GNU/Linux >> > > allows >> > >> you to >> > >> >>> use a >> > >> >>> USB drive with your music collection to DJ on any >> > > modern >> > >> PC (with >> > >> >>> an x86 >> > >> >>> or x86_64 CPU), including Apple Macs, using the DJ >> > > program >> > >> Mixxx >> > >> >>> customized however you like. USB drives with >> > > Crossfade >> > >> GNU/Linux >> > >> >>> installed on them show up in Windows, Mac OS X, and >> > >> GNU/Linux as >> > >> >>> normal >> > >> >>> USB drives that music or any other data can be >> > > copied >> > >> onto. Unlike >> > >> >>> ordinary USB drives, they can also be used to boot >> > > Crossfade >> > >> >>> GNU/Linux. >> > >> >>> After rebooting, the PC will be back to how it was >> > > before. >> > >> See the >> > >> >>> manual included in the torrent for installations >> > > instructions. >> > >> >>> Get the torrent here: >> > >> >>> >> > >> >> > > http://linuxtracker.org/download.php?id=054465878ca40308a585654d385 >> > >> > >> >>> 9786dfd79f133&f=crossfade-0.90.torrent >> > >> >>> Please seed the torrent! :) >> > >> >>> Crossfade GNU/Linux and Mixxx are free software-- >> > > free as in >> > >> >>> artistic >> > >> >>> freedom, not just price. You are free and encouraged >> > > to >> > >> use, copy, >> > >> >>> *share*, and modify this software however you wish >> > > and >> > >> share your >> > >> >>> changes with the community here. Sharing Crossfade >> > >> GNU/Linux can >> > >> >>> be a >> > >> >>> great way to encourage friends to start DJing or >> > > introduce >> > >> DJs who >> > >> >>> use >> > >> >>> proprietary software such as Traktor, Serato >> > > Scratch, >> > >> Serato Itch, >> > >> >>> or >> > >> >>> Virtual DJ to free software without having to commit >> > > to >> > >> installing >> > >> >>> anything on their PC. >> > >> >>> Crossfade GNU/Linux is setup with a realtime Linux >> > > kernel for >> > >> >>> optimal >> > >> >>> performance. It includes the Xfce graphical desktop >> > >> environment, >> > >> >>> Midori >> > >> >>> web browser, and Clementine music player. It has a >> > > number >> > >> of other >> > >> >>> programs for live musical performance including the >> > >> Hydrogen drum >> > >> >>> machine, SooperLooper and Giada loopers, Guitarix >> > > electric >> > >> guitar >> > >> >>> amplifier, Rakarrak guitar effects board, Ardour >> > > digital audio >> > >> >>> workstation,Audacity wave editor, and many LV2 and >> > > LADSPA >> > >> audio >> > >> >>> effects >> > >> >>> plugins. Additionally, Crossfade GNU/Linux includes >> > >> utilities that >> > >> >>> make >> > >> >>> it useful as a computer rescue system, such as the >> > > GParted >> > >> >>> partition >> > >> >>> manager, GNU GRUB bootloader, TestDisk data recovery >> > > program, >> > >> >>> FSArchiver >> > >> >>> filesystem backup program, and MATE Disk Usage >> > > Analyzer. >> > >> Crossfade >> > >> >>> GNU/Linux is a Fedora Remix containing software from >> > >> sources other >> > >> >>> than >> > >> >>> Fedora, namely RPMFusion and PlanetCCRMA, as well as >> > >> scripts and >> > >> >>> configuration specific to Crossfade GNU/Linux. >> > >> >>> To do: >> > >> >>> -Confirm that USB drives are readable by CDJs. I do >> > > not >> > >> have CDJs >> > >> >>> so >> > >> >>> help would be appreciated! (DJ Pegasus also >> > > mentioned it >> > >> should be >> > >> >>> readable by his car stereo... o.O) >> > >> >>> -A logo and desktop background. I have a sketch on >> > > paper for a >> > >> >>> logo. Now >> > >> >>> I need to learn how to use Inkscape. >> > >> >>> -Internationalization. Does anyone want to volunteer >> > > to >> > >> translate >> > >> >>> the >> > >> >>> liveusb-install script and manual? >> > >> >>> I am thinking about ordering custom USB drives with >> > > the logo >> > >> >>> printed on >> > >> >>> them to sell with Crossfade preloaded. They would be >> > >> either 16, >> > >> >>> 32, or >> > >> >>> 64 GB, depending on how much it would cost to make >> > > each of >> > >> those. >> > >> >>> They >> > >> >>> would be metal cylinders with tight screw-on caps. >> > > The >> > >> caps would >> > >> >>> be >> > >> >>> able to attach to key rings. I will try to get USB >> > > 3.0 >> > >> drives if >> > >> >>> possible. I don't know what the price would be yet, >> > > but I am >> > >> >>> thinking >> > >> >>> somewhere from $10-25 USD. Would anyone be >> > > interested in >> > >> buying >> > >> >>> that? >> > >> >>> How much would you be willing to pay for it? >> > >> >>> >> > >> --------------------------------------------------------- >> > > ---------- >> > >> >>> ----------- >> > >> >>> Dive into the World of Parallel Programming The Go >> > > Parallel >> > >> >>> Website, sponsored >> > >> >>> by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot >> > > Media, >> > >> is your >> > >> >>> hub for all >> > >> >>> things parallel software development, from weekly >> > > thought >> > >> >>> leadership blogs to >> > >> >>> news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. 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