Bruce should be sent a copy of the known HA '49 poster, as a comparison.

I would be curious as to his take on this, as well.


Jeff



On Jun 20, 2015, at 3:01 PM, David wrote:

Question to all...

Doesn't the BIDLL one look a whole lot like this 1949 version?

http://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/archiveitem/12681291.html

David



Wim Jansen wrote on 21/06/2015 5:07 AM:
Okay this is bugging me, I have done a quick reference search based on pics of Heritage (nice details!) and Emovie (aaargh not enough detail) of London Films productions from Imdb.


Here we go:
FALLEN IDOL 1948 onesheet London Film logo, nothing on Lion International Nottingham only MAN BETWEEN 1953 one sheet London Film logo, nothing on Lion International printer not visible CAPTAIN�S PARADISE 53 halfsheet London Film credits no logo, British Lion logo (actual lion) Nott.ham only HOBSON�s CHOIce 1954 one sheet London Film logo, nothing on Lion International probably just Nottingham - unclear BELLES OF ST.TRINIANS 1954 3sheet London Films International and logo printer not visible RICHARD III 1955 onesheet �distribution controlled by London Films International", no logo Nottingham and London Kid FOR TWO FARTHINGS 1955 one sheet London Film logo Nott.ham and London IRON PETTICOAT 1956 six sheet Lion International, no London Film printer not visible

I think I have solid ground for my position that it�s a rerelease, I�d say after 1955. There�s a book on the history of the Stafford Company by a local heritage writer, but there�s not a copy available on the net. Grrr, I want that. However I would not be at all surprised the Biddll one is printed in London in late 1955 the earliest.

Wim

Op 20 jun. 2015, om 20:22 heeft Jeff Potokar <jpotok...@ca.rr.com> het volgende geschreven:

From the British Lion website. A brief history of the company, also mentioning that BL became a distribution company in 1955, after it fell into receivership.

http://www.britishlion.com/british-lion-history.shtml



Jeff









On Jun 20, 2015, at 11:04 AM, Wim Jansen wrote:

I disagree, I think the absence off the London Film logo is pretty crucial. Anyway I�m gonna find my Carol Reed book, maybe that has some more details on the release schedule, probably not though.

Looking at the re-release posters on Heritage and emovie I�m wondering how sure are we that those are not international releases and the Biddl one is the real English rerelease. That would also explain the differences in the printer information.

W
Op 20 jun. 2015, om 19:49 heeft Simon Oram <fab5fre...@btinternet.com> het volgende geschreven:

I'm more in the thinking that it's a International UK 1 sheet for the first release in one of the colonies. Due to its obvious closeness and decent printing standard it's very close to the original release date. David said that The Third Man was released in Australia March 1950. OK the poster is in New Zealand but I think with that sort of info that sways me into thinking that way.

Simon

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The unfavourable scenario (presumably no one is thinking fake), is that it could be an International RR?

(Prior to that horrible "RR" which is based on it. I think based on the actual printed poster, and no connection to original plates.)

Would they bother doing it for International RR? Especially with decent quality printing, (as good as the domestic).

Everything points to it being contemporary to the domestic printed version, and any variances between the posters make sense.

One print run for domestic version, one run for international. Whether done at the same branch of the printers or not.

A different version would require a different set of plates to be made up, hence any minor differences with illustration along with required changes. (?)



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On 20 Jun 2015, at 16:40, Paul Gerrard <00000060c3f9be9c-dmarc- requ...@listserv.american.edu> wrote:

Different companies! Eagle-Lion was Rank as you correctly say; but Lion International was part of London Films/British Lion. It's just that we can't be 100% sure when Lion International started...

Paul
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In a message dated 20/06/2015 15:19:47 GMT Daylight Time, fab5fre...@btinternet.com writes:
Hi David,


I would presume Lion International was part of Eagle-Lion owned by J. Arthur Rank. Eagle Lion were founded in 1946.

This is interesting from Wikipedia, especially the last part �From 1946-1949 Eagle-Lion was under the control of Arthur Krim who in addition to releasing films by Rank and reissues of David O. Selznick films�.

Obviously I�m not saying the poster on Bidll is definitely a reissue/re-release but I think it would be worth checking on more.

Regards Simon

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